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      03-23-2017, 09:40 PM   #1
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Dinan springs - what track tires you running?

I just fitted my apex 18x8.5s on nitto 01s and they are rubbing badly.

NITTO are 235/40/18 and are taller and a bit wider than a normal 235/40 tire.

Im thinking I need to go down to a 35, but havent found many options in a 235.35.18.
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Im not running springs currently, but am switching tyres on my 18x8s to a 235/40/18 square setup with Nankang NS-2Rs and am expecting to encounter a bit of rubbing on the front of the fender liner (nothing major though). My 225/40/18 winter set up (deep tread) on the same wheels rubbed slightly in certain situations (full lock reverse on an incline). They are a 32 offset though with around 2deg camber for street. Theres this bump in the liner near the headlight port that reduces clearance quite a bit - thought it may have been fender rubbing, but turns out it wasn't.

My cup 2s, even though on a 19" are a very slightly smaller diameter overall so avoid this problem.

What is the lowering effect of the dinans vs stock?
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nankang? this is a joke right?

if you keep stock suspension you wont rub. You can answer your own questions by searching, and not throwing my thread off.

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nankang? this is a joke right?

if you keep stock suspension you wont rub. You can answer your own questions by searching, and not throwing my thread off.

thanks,

Oh, you're one of those. The NS-2R is not a bad tyre, far from it. A certain element of tyre snobbery would prevent some people from seeing this and, admittedly, i wouldn't be in a rush to choose from their road range, but they make some very good r-comp stuff. Especially for the price. Im expecting (know) i will rub, but not all the time. It was a statement.

I have no intention of going with Dinan springs. Was purely to see what your clearances were - my 8.5s don't have any fender issues and my 8s have minor liner issues purely because of tyre aspect ratio. Just sharing experience, as is the whole point of the forum. Mods can feel free to delete my derailment and get you "back on track".
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I have 18x8.5 wheels running 255 square (camber plate).

When I had my H&R springs (do not recommend) they rubbed badly. I went back to stock and they're fine now. Lowering on this car is kind of a dicey business as you don't have a whole lot of clearance for tires, even with additional camber.

Have you considered camber plates? If you are tracking, it is worth it (even if you aren't, I still like it).
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im on camber plates, -2 up front, -1.8 in rear.

and wasnt trying to be snobby, but nankang isnt known for having good tires at all. The R comps might be decent, but im looking for more well known tires if possible.
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im on camber plates, -2 up front, -1.8 in rear.

and wasnt trying to be snobby, but nankang isnt known for having good tires at all. The R comps might be decent, but im looking for more well known tires if possible.
I'm going to go for the new Hankook RS4 tires when my RS3's wear out. Might want to check those out.
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so im thinking of checking out:

POTENZA RE-71R
ADVAN NEOVA AD08 R
PILOT SPORT CUP 2

maybe even NT01s but in a 225...

Lower ur car they said... better for track they said...

I think i'm gonna have to roll the rear regardless.
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I'm going to go for the new Hankook RS4 tires when my RS3's wear out. Might want to check those out.
I was looking at those too but the issue is that the 245-40-17 is 10.1" inches wide instead of 9.8" as the RE-71R so I'm worried they will be hitting the strut....
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I was looking at those too but the issue is that the 245-40-17 is 10.1" inches wide instead of 9.8" as the RE-71R so I'm worried they will be hitting the strut....
I will admit that Hankooks tend to run a little wide. Mine did. Problem is that there really isn't a game in town for 200 TW tires that you can drive on the street right now. RE-71s are not suited and bridgestone discontinued the RE-11As (which was what I was going to get).

I dunno. Maybe I'll get Direzzas again. They were pretty good.
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I will admit that Hankooks tend to run a little wide. Mine did. Problem is that there really isn't a game in town for 200 TW tires that you can drive on the street right now. RE-71s are not suited and bridgestone discontinued the RE-11As (which was what I was going to get).

I dunno. Maybe I'll get Direzzas again. They were pretty good.
I have a dedicated set and run PSS on the stock wheels on the street and Kosei k4r with RE-71R for the track

I know some people cut the plastic cover for the strut but wonder if you might get debris in there and screw up the strut
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I have a dedicated set and run PSS on the stock wheels on the street and Kosei k4r with RE-71R for the track

I know some people cut the plastic cover for the strut but wonder if you might get debris in there and screw up the strut
I'm far, far too lazy to switch tires. I'm not tracking the car as much anymore, so maybe I'll go back to PSS. I hate the soft sidewalls though.
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see the Nittos are taller and wider than normal as well...

I need something thats similar in size to 225/40/18 dsw06's but in a R comp..

I have them on the car now and they fit no problem.

At this point, ill keep it 225, just so i don't rub. I should have just got the KW's...

Matching tire specs, i think the 225 nittos will work.
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Dropping to a 225 may be the only solution on a lowered car if you're wanting to stick with 18s (and i can appreciate why you would). Cant see any manufacturer who does a 235/35/18 r-comp.

Out of the AD08R and Cup 2s, only get the AD08s if you can get them at a good discount. Over here they run almost as much as a set of cup 2s and just aren't quite in the same league. Better in the wet, but more of a compromised all rounder. The Cup 2 is wide though so there is that to consider. Cant comment on the Nitto or the RE-71R as they just aren't widely available, if at all, in the UK.
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ill probably end up with a 225 R comp. Need to do more research this week.
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For track duty I'm running 245/40-17 R-S3s in a square setup. No rub, no fuss, and I'm down almost 7 lbs. per wheel over OEM with this setup.
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yea i'm stuck on 18s... before drop i was 235/40/18 no issues with nt01s even with 15mm spacers.
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Where are you actually rubbing?

You mentioned rolling the rear fender. You can't roll the rear, but you can pull it if you want.
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rear fender rubs.

I can probably add more camber if i wanted, needed too.
Id rather not tho.
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rear fender rubs.

I can probably add more camber if i wanted, needed too.
Id rather not tho.
I think your only options are:

1. higher offset or narrower wheel and/or tire
2. Pull the fender (can't roll the rear).
3. more camber

I would think more camber is the easier option...depending on how much more camber you actually need.

If you already paid for the nt01 use them up before spending the money on other tires. They don't last long anyway. Unless you can unload them on someone easily and for a good price.

I run the RE71 now and have used the nt01 before. RE71 is comparable to the nt01 since it's older tire tech. My opinion anyway.
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see the Nittos are taller and wider than normal as well...

I need something thats similar in size to 225/40/18 dsw06's but in a R comp..

I have them on the car now and they fit no problem.

At this point, ill keep it 225, just so i don't rub. I should have just got the KW's...

Matching tire specs, i think the 225 nittos will work.
I run maxxis rc-1, better than any other tire short of a full slick. I have run them all, these have really strong sidewalls, and no tread pattern, they last as long as nt01s, plus you can flip them on the rim for an extra day or two.

TP01357100 235/40ZR18 91W BSW 25.4 9.3 44 1356 8.0-[8.5]-9.5 6/32
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I bit the bullet an going to try out the re-71R's in 225.

If i have to, i can run the nt01s, but i noticed 1 was starting to cord, so pulled the trigger last night. Hope they get here in time.
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