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      08-24-2017, 03:06 AM   #1
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I'm in the process of buying a set of 19" 403m (non staggered) for my 2013 F30 320D

just wondered would these look and fit better if i added spacers?

If so what would people recommend for sizes front and back? Ive seen the wheels when they come in line with the arches which i like the look of the stance

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      08-24-2017, 03:10 AM   #2
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If you haven't bought them yet then I'd recommend buying staggered instead and then using spacers.

Some, me included, run 10/12mm F/R whilst others prefer 12/15.

Staggered would give more presence at the rear, although some may say that 255 rear tyres on a 320D is overkill.

Depends what look you are trying to achieve.
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If you haven't bought them yet then I'd recommend buying staggered instead and then using spacers.

Some, me included, run 10/12mm F/R whilst others prefer 12/15.

Staggered would give more presence at the rear, although some may say that 255 rear tyres on a 320D is overkill.

Depends what look you are trying to achieve.
I'm buying used alloys due to budget and the ones i'm getting arent staggered so don't have that choice

I'm looking for a wide clean look if that makes sense, want the wheels to not be lost in the arches but dont want them silly wide!

Can i ask what you would recommend in this instance
  • spacers f/r with non staggered
  • tyre size to suit

Thank you for your help pal
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I have 12mm all round but with a staggered set up which looks good, not too much poke. So guess with a non staggered set up 12mm front 15mm rear would be about flush.
Think that the 225 or 235x40x19 all round would probably be a good set up
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I have 12mm all round but with a staggered set up which looks good, not too much poke. So guess with a non staggered set up 12mm front 15mm rear would be about flush.
Awesome info Alscoob any recommendation for spacers or are they pretty much the same?

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Awesome info Alscoob any recommendation for spacers or are they pretty much the same?
Eibach spacers for me. Got mine from Lorcan at ACS inc longer bolts & lockers. Others use H&R but have no experience of them and no not all are the same. I personally will only use good brands and hubcentric types
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Awesome info Alscoob any recommendation for spacers or are they pretty much the same?
Eibach spacers for me. Got mine from Lorcan at ACS inc longer bolts & lockers. Others use H&R but have no experience of them and no not all are the same. I personally will only use good brands and hubcentric types
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Just find this out

They are original BMW 403M wheels - so they are wider at the rear than the front!

They are: Front: 8 J x 19. Rear: 8.5 J x 19
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Loads of threads on this subject if you search. One from myself somewhere that includes pictures.

I fitted 12f 15r albeit with 20"s.

While I'm happy with them, for me personally if I was doing so again I'd do 10 on the front rather than 12 as it's just ever so slightly a bit much with 12's. All personal taste of course.

Eibach for me too. Slightly more expensive but fill out the hub completely unlike some cheaper ones. Contact Lorcan on here.

Also it's worth remembering the type of tyres i.e. Rim protection you have will make a difference to the poke.
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      08-24-2017, 06:38 AM   #10
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It really depends on how you want it to look. I had 12/15mm front/rear and it does bring the wheels out in the arches, but they're still just a tad inside.

Swapped the rear out for some 20mm spacers (I like a bit of poke) and really happy with how it sits now. Debating going for 15s on the front instead of the 12s too.
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      08-24-2017, 06:39 AM   #11
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Give me a call for options and prices on Eibach spacers
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Loads of threads on this subject if you search. One from myself somewhere that includes pictures.

I fitted 12f 15r albeit with 20"s.

While I'm happy with them, for me personally if I was doing so again I'd do 10 on the front rather than 12 as it's just ever so slightly a bit much with 12's. All personal taste of course.

Eibach for me too. Slightly more expensive but fill out the hub completely unlike some cheaper ones. Contact Lorcan on here.

Also it's worth remembering the type of tyres i.e. Rim protection you have will make a difference to the poke.
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It really depends on how you want it to look. I had 12/15mm front/rear and it does bring the wheels out in the arches, but they're still just a tad inside.

Swapped the rear out for some 20mm spacers (I like a bit of poke) and really happy with how it sits now. Debating going for 15s on the front instead of the 12s too.
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Give me a call for options and prices on Eibach spacers
Appreciated guys thanks for the help and yeah Lorcan i think Eibach will be my choice had a look at their site as they have 20% off at the moment but if you can do better and you benefit ill give you a shout once i have the wheels

Think ill try 12F and 15R and see how i get on if its not enough ill use the 15 for the front and buy 20 for the rear and sell the 12's

Again massive respect to all that have replied and give great advice

Tyres to think about next lol

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      08-24-2017, 07:09 AM   #13
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Strutt320D I'll get some pics of mine up tonight once I get home so you can see how they sit, I've got 403m wheels too so should give you a good idea on what 12mm spacers sit like on the front, and what 20mm sits like on the rear.
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DThr33 Thats awesome yeah stick to this thread so i can have a look may change my mind..... also what rubber are you running?

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DThr33 Thats awesome yeah stick to this thread so i can have a look may change my mind..... also what rubber are you running?

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      08-24-2017, 11:43 AM   #16
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DThr33 Thats awesome yeah stick to this thread so i can have a look may change my mind..... also what rubber are you running?

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      08-24-2017, 02:15 PM   #17
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I've not really given much thought to spacers... out of interest, apart from visual, do they make the car handle any differently in the corners, i.e., does it roll less?
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I've not really given much thought to spacers... out of interest, apart from visual, do they make the car handle any differently in the corners, i.e., does it roll less?
its normally for clearing shocks and brakes if theirs a size issue but in most cases its the stance of the car and look ( the case for me)

I don't think as long as they are fitted correctly and balanced there are any issues with having them on the car
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I've not really given much thought to spacers... out of interest, apart from visual, do they make the car handle any differently in the corners, i.e., does it roll less?
Yeh they'll stiffen up the steering a bit due to the wider track. Comfort is more like being in sport mode steering wise and sport a bit stiffer still.

Maybe slightly better round corners but it's really all about the visuals. It really does make a substantial difference to the look.

Only real downside is it does make the tyres throw a bit more debris down the wings. Could be purely coincidence but I've noticed a few minor chips/scratches on the doors in the 2 months since fitting with nothing at all in those areas in the previous 2+ years.
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I'm planning on changing my car at the end of the year, so not sure I'll take the plunge. If I decide to get a 440i Coupe, I'm wondering would the spacers fit it, or not?! If they will transfer to a 440i I might very well get a set. From what I've read, I'd probably go for 10mm front and either 12 or 15 for the rear. Mmm, I'm thinking about this now...
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I'm planning on changing my car at the end of the year, so not sure I'll take the plunge. If I decide to get a 440i Coupe, I'm wondering would the spacers fit it, or not?! If they will transfer to a 440i I might very well get a set. From what I've read, I'd probably go for 10mm front and either 12 or 15 for the rear. Mmm, I'm thinking about this now...
I could be wrong but I think while the spacers should transfer straight from a 3 to 4 series the 4 will take a wider spacer if desired.

Pretty sure while most people go for 15mm at the rear of an 3er it's at least 20mm at the rear of a 4er.

As I said you might want to search and check that as I'm not 100% sure.
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I could be wrong but I think while the spacers should transfer straight from a 3 to 4 series the 4 will take a wider spacer if desired.

Pretty sure while most people go for 15mm at the rear of an 3er it's at least 20mm at the rear of a 4er.

As I said you might want to search and check that as I'm not 100% sure.
Here are 12f/15r on my old f32. Could've done with a little wider on the rear.

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1358077

The spacers from a 3 will work on a 4 and vice versa, the ones on my f32 came off another forum member's f30.
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