440i GC Review

dopper99 · 09-01-2017, 05:53 PM

Quite a good review. Mentions the weight quite a few times. Do they feel that heavy? Maybe because he's used to an M Lite.

NISFAN · 09-01-2017, 07:23 PM

I took a 440GC and an Mlite out back to back. You can feel the weight difference, and as always, weight is a killer. But it's not an "extra few hundred kilo's" as Joe suggests, the 440iGC is 75kg heavier than a 340i. The Auto M Lite is not hugely lighter than a 340i, maybe 60kg?

Other than that he is spot on, the 440i GC felt softer and more muted to me too. I think the engine is a little toned down compared to M Lite, which doesn't help performance feel.

moff · 09-02-2017, 01:24 AM

He mentions that the GC is 1700kg. I thought the normal coupe was 1555kg so that doesn't seem right.

TodmordenLad · 09-02-2017, 01:33 AM

The 440i 4GC weighs 1690kg, 65kg more than the Coupe

werewolf81 · 09-02-2017, 10:38 AM

I think he makes fair points.

One of the reasons, why I'm buying a 4GC is that it's a pretty looking, very versatile car.

And usually versatile cars are never just best at something if you know what I mean.

If someone like Joe, who had a chance to drive proper M cars, says it's not a sports car I can understand that. If it was, there wouldn't be the M4 series

On the other hand, he admits, it's very quick, quite agile but comfortable and surprisingly big inside which make a perfect all rounder.

TodmordenLad · 09-02-2017, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lobb

Sorry. I've just got no time for this bonehead. Very amateurish stuff

He is certainly an acquired taste

Racing Teatray · 09-03-2017, 09:33 AM

I've not watched yet but I had an M135i for 4 years before getting the 440i GC. There's nothing in it performance-wise - in fact the auto GC feels quicker than the manual M135i. But there's no getting away from the fact that the smaller car is wielder and just handles a twisty road a bit better. As you would expect and hope.

But the 440GC is as discussed far more versatile. The M135i is a car. The 440GC is two rolled into one.

JustChris · 09-03-2017, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TodmordenLad

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Originally Posted by Lobb

Sorry. I've just got no time for this bonehead. Very amateurish stuff

He is certainly an acquired taste

09-01-2017, 05:53 PM	#1
dopper99 Lieutenant General 3531 Rep 11,292 Posts Drives: Golf R Mk8 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (1)	440i GC Review - Joe Achilles Quite a good review. Mentions the weight quite a few times. Do they feel that heavy? Maybe because he's used to an M Lite. __________________ Current: Golf R Mk8 Previous: Golf R Mk7.5 Mercedes AMG C63 S Coupe F80 M3 Competition Pack
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09-01-2017, 07:23 PM	#2
NISFAN Major General 3489 Rep 9,709 Posts Drives: BMW M2 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Bedford UK iTrader: (0)	I took a 440GC and an Mlite out back to back. You can feel the weight difference, and as always, weight is a killer. But it's not an "extra few hundred kilo's" as Joe suggests, the 440iGC is 75kg heavier than a 340i. The Auto M Lite is not hugely lighter than a 340i, maybe 60kg? Other than that he is spot on, the 440i GC felt softer and more muted to me too. I think the engine is a little toned down compared to M Lite, which doesn't help performance feel.
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09-02-2017, 01:24 AM	#3
moff Colonel 1363 Rep 2,495 Posts Drives: X4M Competition Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nottingham GB iTrader: (0)	He mentions that the GC is 1700kg. I thought the normal coupe was 1555kg so that doesn't seem right. __________________ Arrived! 2022 X4M Competition, SPY + Black Merino Gone: 2019 X3M Competition, Toronto Red, Adelaide Grey.
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09-02-2017, 01:33 AM	#4
TodmordenLad Brigadier General 2876 Rep 3,966 Posts Drives: Audi A4 Avant Join Date: May 2015 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	The 440i 4GC weighs 1690kg, 65kg more than the Coupe __________________ Owned: 440i GC LCI with MPPSK, F31 330D M Sport with MPPK, F11 530D SE, F11 520D SE, E61 530D M Sport, E36 325i plus many MB's, Audi's & Volvo's
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09-02-2017, 10:38 AM	#5
werewolf81 Private First Class 86 Rep 149 Posts Drives: BMW 125i Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: North Yorkshire iTrader: (0)	I think he makes fair points. One of the reasons, why I'm buying a 4GC is that it's a pretty looking, very versatile car. And usually versatile cars are never just best at something if you know what I mean. If someone like Joe, who had a chance to drive proper M cars, says it's not a sports car I can understand that. If it was, there wouldn't be the M4 series On the other hand, he admits, it's very quick, quite agile but comfortable and surprisingly big inside which make a perfect all rounder.
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09-03-2017, 09:33 AM	#7
Racing Teatray Lieutenant 218 Rep 492 Posts Drives: BMW 440i GC Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central London iTrader: (0)	I've not watched yet but I had an M135i for 4 years before getting the 440i GC. There's nothing in it performance-wise - in fact the auto GC feels quicker than the manual M135i. But there's no getting away from the fact that the smaller car is wielder and just handles a twisty road a bit better. As you would expect and hope. But the 440GC is as discussed far more versatile. The M135i is a car. The 440GC is two rolled into one.
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