[Welcome to NBA Jam]

We all know that the OFHG isn't very good on these cars. They flatten and plasticize after only 60,000 miles. Is anyone working on a more robust seal, like Viton, for the N54/N55? Is there any interest in it?

[ctuna]

I thought I had read that someone was making a gasket
out of some different material that was suppose to last
longer .

https://blog.bavauto.com/13429/bmw-o...0-m52-m54-etc/

[BimmerNugget]

No, no one is going to create a solution to a $5-$10 problem. That damn gasket is literally $6 and maybe 2 hours to DIY. My N51 just recently start leaking a little bit and I plan on DIYing it very soon.

Even if you don't DIY, this is a $200 job (parts & labor) at an independent shop.

I don't even know why people make OFHG such a big issue on the E90s. Valve cover gaksets, Oil pan gaskets, water pumps/thermostats, and starter motors are the bigger issues.

[TemjinX2]

i would like a better gasket, but too be honest it would probably difficult to get the kind of volume you need to make it cost effective in terms of R & D and manufacturing.

I still dont get why a japanese gasket lasts 160k and a german one only lasts 60k.

[Captain comic]

Originally Posted by TemjinX2

i would like a better gasket, but too be honest it would probably difficult to get the kind of volume you need to make it cost effective in terms of R & D and manufacturing.

I still dont get why a japanese gasket lasts 160k and a german one only lasts 60k.

Because Greenpeace is strong in Germany and materials are biodegradable. BMW made a big deal about it. Same with efficient dynamics and mass hysteria with electric cars i3/i8 etc.

Japanese - they don't care about ecology (look at Fukusima nuclear plant - still leaking contaminated waste int ocean), but they do care about longevity of their cars and parts

[TemjinX2]

Originally Posted by Captain comic

Because Greenpeace is strong in Germany and materials are biodegradable. BMW made a big deal about it. Same with efficient dynamics and mass hysteria with electric cars i3/i8 etc.

Japanese - they don't care about ecology (look at Fukusima nuclear plant - still leaking contaminated waste int ocean), but they do care about longevity of their cars and parts

i dont really get that way of thinking? why would you need a engine gasket to biodegrade? Wouldnt that create more waste since you have to throw away the old one and buy another one?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Captain comic

Because Greenpeace is strong in Germany and materials are biodegradable. BMW made a big deal about it. Same with efficient dynamics and mass hysteria with electric cars i3/i8 etc.

Japanese - they don't care about ecology (look at Fukusima nuclear plant - still leaking contaminated waste int ocean), but they do care about longevity of their cars and parts

Why don't you go ahead and just make some shit up...

LOL

[The Nightman]

I wonder if the newest revision (#11428637821) is better? It was updated in April 2015 and is used on the F series models:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part...&q=11428637821

I replaced mine with it and noticed it has more ridges than the previous gaskets:

[ctuna]

Most engines that I have had are designed such that the
Filter screws directly into the Engine Block needing no
Filter Housing at all.

What I don't understand is this has apparently been a problem long before even the e90 series . So why hasn't there been a design change.

[robthewrench]

Originally Posted by TemjinX2

i would like a better gasket, but too be honest it would probably difficult to get the kind of volume you need to make it cost effective in terms of R & D and manufacturing.

I still dont get why a japanese gasket lasts 160k and a german one only lasts 60k.

Two things to point out:

- The design is the problem, not the gasket material.
- The reason it doesn't last is because of heat. BMW designs most of their recent engines to run hotter than prior decades. This makes it easier to get the most power from the fuel and reduces emissions by fully burning more molecules of the fuel (less un-burnt goes out the exhaust).This is also why BMW requires a really good synthetic oil to perform under this heat (while some other cars / trucks can still use conventional or syn blend oil). However, heat is the enemy of gaskets. More heat = more brittle gaskets = more leaks.

[delmarco]

Originally Posted by robthewrench

Two things to point out:

- The design is the problem, not the gasket material.
- The reason it doesn't last is because of heat. BMW designs most of their recent engines to run hotter than prior decades. This makes it easier to get the most power from the fuel and reduces emissions by fully burning more molecules of the fuel (less un-burnt goes out the exhaust).This is also why BMW requires a really good synthetic oil to perform under this heat (while some other cars / trucks can still use conventional or syn blend oil). However, heat is the enemy of gaskets. More heat = more brittle gaskets = more leaks.

Glad they don't make car tires out of the same rubber then...

I purchased an aftermarket OFHG from ECStuning that is rumored to last longer than the OEM replacement. It was cheaper as well.

IDK.

Just like the shoemaker don't care about the laces on they shoes they sell I doubt BMW will care about the $2 gaskets in a car they are selling for $40,000 to $60,000!

[TemjinX2]

Originally Posted by freedomfries

I wonder if the newest revision (#11428637821) is better? It was updated in April 2015 and is used on the F series models:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part...&q=11428637821

I replaced mine with it and noticed it has more ridges than the previous gaskets:

i hope your right...i just replaced mined with the newer part number.

[BashShah]

Originally Posted by Welcome to NBA Jam

We all know that the OFHG isn't very good on these cars. They flatten and plasticize after only 60,000 miles. Is anyone working on a more robust seal, like Viton, for the N54/N55? Is there any interest in it?

I have a solution.
and it went through a lot of R and D.

it's Called: Permatex Ultra Coper

you put a small amount around your NEW Gasket....
NO MORE LEAKS.....most likely EVER.
follow instructions on product.

[delmarco]

Originally Posted by DarkNemesis

I have a solution.
and it went through a lot of R and D.

it's Called: Permatex Ultra Coper

you put a small amount around your NEW Gasket....
NO MORE LEAKS.....most likely EVER.
follow instructions on product.

Yeah because that is like Krazy Glue made from material off the surface of planet Mercury!

That stuff is permanent man...

[The Nightman]

Originally Posted by delmarco

I purchased an aftermarket OFHG from ECStuning that is rumored to last longer than the OEM replacement. It was cheaper as well.

IDK.

Any more info on this?

[delmarco]

Originally Posted by freedomfries

Any more info on this?

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...428637821~oeb/

[BashShah]

Originally Posted by delmarco

Yeah because that is like Krazy Glue made from material off the surface of planet Mercury!

That stuff is permanent man...

Not permanent.
It's like rubber, come off, very easily.
The result is like rubber.
But can withstand high temps and oil.

[Captain comic]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Why don't you go ahead and just make some shit up...

LOL

For you my slow thinking friend opening a geography atlas may blow your mind. It's called science. Not everything is woodoo

[lukasB]

BMW gaskets are made out of ACM (acrylic rubber). Material temperature range is 14*F - 302*F it's water and moisture resistance is poor, as is resistance to acids and alkalis. It has a good resistance to heat, oxidation and hydraulic oils and is cheap

[Wolf 335]

Originally Posted by DarkNemesis

Not permanent.
It's like rubber, come off, very easily.
The result is like rubber.
But can withstand high temps and oil.

So what did you do, can you walk us through your steps?

You placed the gasket in the groove and then applied permatex on top of the gasket?

[delmarco]

Originally Posted by Wolf 335

So what did you do, can you walk us through your steps?

You placed the gasket in the groove and then applied permatex on top of the gasket?

NO from what I googled this gel paste REPLACES the actual gasket. So you squirt it in the place the gasket goes and it dries becoming a gasket in itself!

Almost as if you are gluing the halves of the filter housing together at the seam that the gasket sits in.

[Sgop335]

Originally Posted by delmarco

NO from what I googled this gel paste REPLACES the actual gasket. So you squirt it in the place the gasket goes and it dries becoming a gasket in itself!

Almost as if you are gluing the halves of the filter housing together at the seam that the gasket sits in.

Perhaps so, but i think DN is using in addition to the gasket. Would be interested to hear what he did.