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      10-13-2017, 02:07 PM   #1
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What?s this red fluid from?!

Driver side toward front. Not trans fluid (manual trans) or power steeering (chf-11 gold)
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Brake fluid?
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Manual Trans can use auto fluid redline d4 and D6 is commonly
used.

I would check all your fluids except oil for a color match.
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Trains is no where near this location but found out it's the fluid from a busted control arm tension strut bushing that failed
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Trains is no where near this location but found out it's the fluid from a busted control arm tension strut bushing that failed
Install M3 ones and be done with it unless you have AWD.
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Trains is no where near this location but found out it's the fluid from a busted control arm tension strut bushing that failed
Install M3 ones and be done with it unless you have AWD.
I would if I tracked it but since I don?t and already have more inside wear I don?t want the extra negative camber.
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I would if I tracked it but since I don?t and already have more inside wear I don?t want the extra negative camber.
You're doing yourself a disservice.

Once you figure out that toe causes wear, not camber, all will be right with the world.
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Are you sure you didn't murder something? If so, you'll need the m3 arms for better turn in to help avoid killing animals in the future
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If any of your fluids are non OEM, it can be hard to identify by color alone. Have you felt it and smelled it?

Possible leaks:
- Non oem power steering
- Brake fluid from clutch or brake master cylinder
- Coolant
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I would if I tracked it but since I don?t and already have more inside wear I don?t want the extra negative camber.
You're doing yourself a disservice.

Once you figure out that toe causes wear, not camber, all will be right with the world.
While toe settings do affect tire wear more than camber, More negative camber does give more tire wear with the same toe setting, maybe the same wear with zero toe in which case that might cause wandering at speeds. Unless the reasoning to go M3 is so they last longer or to track the car it doesn?t do much for street use other than wear tires more. .
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Taste it.
Can?t now since it?s gone but since I don?t know what bushing fluid tastes like it wouldn?t confirm anything.
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Can?t now since it?s gone but since I don?t know what bushing fluid tastes like it wouldn?t confirm anything.
Me either....
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While toe settings do affect tire wear more than camber, More negative camber does give more tire wear with the same toe setting, maybe the same wear with zero toe in which case that might cause wandering at speeds. Unless the reasoning to go M3 is so they last longer or to track the car it doesn?t do much for street use other than wear tires more. .
False false fasle

True, there are limits; trade-offs start to occur once past a fairly defined threshold, but even then, driving style, tire compound, etc. have way more to do with the equation than camber alone.

I've gone from factory -0.5* of camber to -2* while keeping the same 1/16" total toe up front and the tires have worn at the same exact even rate for 10s of thousands of miles on my street-only driven E90.
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While toe settings do affect tire wear more than camber, More negative camber does give more tire wear with the same toe setting, maybe the same wear with zero toe in which case that might cause wandering at speeds. Unless the reasoning to go M3 is so they last longer or to track the car it doesn?t do much for street use other than wear tires more. .
False false fasle

True, there are limits; trade-offs start to occur once past a fairly defined threshold, but even then, driving style, tire compound, etc. have way more to do with the equation than camber alone.

I've gone from factory -0.5* of camber to -2* while keeping the same 1/16" total toe up front and the tires have worn at the same exact even rate for 10s of thousands of miles on my street-only driven E90.
What I?ve stated is true. There?s no way more camber won?t wear the inside tire more, especially with same toe settings. More camber = more weight = more friction = more wear. Just because you don?t think so doesn?t make it false.
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I don't think you need to track the car to appreciate the addition of more steering precision. Even if the tires wear slightly more due to the increased Camber (it's not increased to a significant degree, so the additional inner tire wear would be marginal, if any), the benefits to the driving experience are worthwhile in my opinion.

Either way....new control arms are in order....so why not upgrade?
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What I?ve stated is true. There?s no way more camber won?t wear the inside tire more, especially with same toe settings. More camber = more weight = more friction = more wear. Just because you don?t think so doesn?t make it false.
Says the guy with zero experience or knowledge on the subject...good luck chasing down your fluid leak.
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Trains is no where near this location but found out it's the fluid from a busted control arm tension strut bushing that failed
Install M3 ones and be done with it unless you have AWD.
I would if I tracked it but since I don?t and already have more inside wear I don?t want the extra negative camber.
You can use the M3 tension struts with non-M wishbones to replace the fluid filled bushing without screwing around with camber.

With that said, I have this set up and NVH goes up quite a bit with the M3 tension struts. If your stock bushings leaked that much fluid and you didn't notice a change in handling, you're better off with stock replacements IMO.
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http://en.intraxracing.nl/techniek/c...toe-intoe-out/

Too much neg camber is bad...
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Trains is no where near this location but found out it's the fluid from a busted control arm tension strut bushing that failed
Install M3 ones and be done with it unless you have AWD.
I would if I tracked it but since I don?t and already have more inside wear I don?t want the extra negative camber.
You can use the M3 tension struts with non-M wishbones to replace the fluid filled bushing without screwing around with camber.

With that said, I have this set up and NVH goes up quite a bit with the M3 tension struts. If your stock bushings leaked that much fluid and you didn't notice a change in handling, you're better off with stock replacements IMO.
I did notice vibration in steering wheel recently at highway speeds so yes, def from busted bushing.
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