R&T M2 is one of the "Ten of the Worst-Sounding Performance Cars You Can Buy Today"

JB330Ci · 02-25-2018, 10:22 PM

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...-cars/?slide=5

...BMW M2
The M2 is probably one of the best performance cars on sale today. It's fun to drive, and looks good doing it. Where it falls flat is with its turbocharged straight-six, which makes too many fart sounds instead of wailing screams.

joec1101 · 02-26-2018, 12:58 AM

This is just one person's opinion...absolutely meaningless, just like 99.99% of all other magazine editor reviews....

Transfer · 02-26-2018, 02:19 AM

I think the author meant to put M4 in there but got mixed up.

akkando · 02-26-2018, 02:24 AM

I mean I guess it's true relative to the NA monsters of yesterday and the ones you can still buy like a GT3 or GT 350r, but relative to other forced induction cars in the same price range it's pretty good.

Tag · 02-26-2018, 10:22 AM

Isn't R&T in the top ten worst in automotive journalism?

mssVT98 · 02-26-2018, 10:38 AM

I saw this and was irrationally irritated at it, since I think the M2 sounds great. Clearly they meant to say M3/4.

That said the video they chose backs up their complaints, and to me doesn't sound at all like any M2 I've heard. If the author was just basing comments on that video it would make sense, but I can't imagine they've not heard one elsewhere.

Ultimately it's meaningless, of course, but still weird. This is the only "professional" review I've seen that says anything negative about the M2's sound. And unlike Tag I normally like R&T!

AndrewC1989 · 02-26-2018, 11:02 AM

Wailing screams?

Lol, what kind of sound is this moron expecting from a 3 liter turbo straight 6? It's not a naturally aspirated V12.

That being said, sound is completely subjective, and you can easily change it with an exhaust/downpipe if you don't like it stock.

J3STER · 02-26-2018, 11:25 AM

I think they are focusing on the decel fart sound that happens when you let go of the accelerator pedal. Which there should be no reason for it to sound like that lol. When I finally tune mine hopefully I will be able to get rid of it. It should have been pops only from the factory since during load the n55 sounds great in my book.

ChrisK · 02-26-2018, 12:30 PM

The 718 Cayman must also be on the list. That 4 banger!

cenz422 · 02-26-2018, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tag

Isn't R&T in the top ten worst in automotive journalism?

I LOL

DarkstarZero · 02-26-2018, 02:35 PM

Just wait until it gets the S55, it'll sound even worse.

Tag · 02-26-2018, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkstarZero

Just wait until it gets the S55, it'll sound even worse.

In the spy pics the muffler's seem to be completely revised from what's currently on the M3/4. I seriously wonder if that's to help make the exhaust note better. Guess we have to wait and see.

Motivate · 02-26-2018, 04:51 PM

Reading some of the other cars that made this "worst" list, the writer clearly doesn't like the sounds of turbo engines. I mean, he may be a NA purist and that's his prerogative

ORIGIN M. · 02-26-2018, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisK

The 718 Cayman must also be on the list. That 4 banger!

It's the worst.

pruettfan · 02-26-2018, 05:38 PM

These magazines have mostly turned to crap, journalism is enchanted with clicks over legitimate content.

ChrisK · 02-26-2018, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pruettfan

These magazines have mostly turned to crap, journalism is enchanted with clicks over legitimate content.

Agreed. I watch Chris Harris and few others for a good/honest reviews.

infinitekidM2C · 02-26-2018, 05:59 PM

i know i'm in the minority but i don't care how the car sounds all that much. ideally it would be silent. noise is so last century.

ORIGIN M. · 02-26-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by infinitekid2002

i know i'm in the minority but i don't care how the car sounds all that much. ideally it would be silent. noise is so last century.

iM2 is only a matter of time.

bobert · 02-26-2018, 06:07 PM

Saw that bit of click-bait on R&T last week - they apparently hired some trolls several months ago who post bs 'lists' like that all the time now.

stefan · 02-26-2018, 06:20 PM

Certainly doesn't sound GOOD but absolutely not the worst BMW M car. That belongs 100% to the M3.

SeanWRT · 02-26-2018, 07:36 PM

Hope more people see my comment below to avoid confusion and being misled.

What the magazine hear and make this kind of judgement from is a video showing a heavily modified M2 doing mountain pass on a excessive burble tune. Burble on that particular car is probably annoyingly overwhelming. That car happen to be one of our forum members'.

Let me be fair to say, M2 stock exhaust is pretty nice under 4k rpm and when shifting, but at top end it is quite muted, just like most of other turbocharged engines, including AMG's glorious V8 M177/178.

SW19 · 02-26-2018, 07:39 PM

The M2 exhaust sounds fantastic,especially in the hidden exhaust mode.The road and track guys are idiots.

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1277527

The S55 exhaust sounds like crap.

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AndrewC1989 Brigadier General 10931 Rep 4,551 Posts Drives: 2015 328d xDrive Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NoVA iTrader: (5) Garage List 2015 328d xDrive [8.90]	Wailing screams? Lol, what kind of sound is this moron expecting from a 3 liter turbo straight 6? It's not a naturally aspirated V12. That being said, sound is completely subjective, and you can easily change it with an exhaust/downpipe if you don't like it stock.
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J3STER Private First Class 54 Rep 99 Posts Drives: AW M2 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	I think they are focusing on the decel fart sound that happens when you let go of the accelerator pedal. Which there should be no reason for it to sound like that lol. When I finally tune mine hopefully I will be able to get rid of it. It should have been pops only from the factory since during load the n55 sounds great in my book.
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Motivate Private First Class 42 Rep 195 Posts Drives: Shopping for a new one Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Reading some of the other cars that made this "worst" list, the writer clearly doesn't like the sounds of turbo engines. I mean, he may be a NA purist and that's his prerogative
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