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      04-05-2018, 01:15 AM   #1
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MSport Exhaust VS Mperformance Exhaust

Hello,

Does anyone know if people are referring to the “Mperformance” exhaust system as the “MSport” exhaust or is this two different exhausts? From my understanding the “MSport” exhaust comes with black exhaust tips, and the soon to be out “Mperformance” exhaust has the carbon fiber tips. If they are indeed two different systems is the “MSport” upgrade worth it?

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Hello,

Does anyone know if people are referring to the "Mperformance" exhaust system as the "MSport" exhaust or is this two different exhausts? From my understanding the "MSport" exhaust comes with black exhaust tips, and the soon to be out "Mperformance" exhaust has the carbon fiber tips. If they are indeed two different systems is the "MSport" upgrade worth it?

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Two different exhausts, Sport Exhaust will be an option($1200) when they release ZCP. M Performance exhaust will be a higher end exhaust; on the F10 this was designed in conjunction w/ Akrapovic and was about 9k if I recall correctly.

I have the Akrapovic on my current F10 M5 and love it.
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+1 Two totally different exhaust systems. MSport just has black tips and a slightly different resonator. Mufflers are not changed.

M Performance is a totally different system. Titanium and more aggressive.
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Two different exhausts, Sport Exhaust will be an option($1200) when they release ZCP. M Performance exhaust will be a higher end exhaust; on the F10 this was designed in conjunction w/ Akrapovic and was about 9k if I recall correctly.

I have the Akrapovic on my current F10 M5 and love it.
New F90 MPE I don't know, but F10 MPE and Akra is the same, personally I don't think BMW designed anything, I have the MPE on my F10, it's just rebadged Akra if you ask me.

Akra ti is the best on the market, it just oozes quality.
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Two different exhausts, Sport Exhaust will be an option($1200) when they release ZCP. M Performance exhaust will be a higher end exhaust; on the F10 this was designed in conjunction w/ Akrapovic and was about 9k if I recall correctly.

I have the Akrapovic on my current F10 M5 and love it.
New F90 MPE I don't know, but F10 MPE and Akra is the same, personally I don't think BMW designed anything, I have the MPE on my F10, it's just rebadged Akra if you ask me.

Akra ti is the best on the market, it just oozes quality.
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Two different exhausts, Sport Exhaust will be an option($1200) when they release ZCP. M Performance exhaust will be a higher end exhaust; on the F10 this was designed in conjunction w/ Akrapovic and was about 9k if I recall correctly.

I have the Akrapovic on my current F10 M5 and love it.
New F90 MPE I don't know, but F10 MPE and Akra is the same, personally I don't think BMW designed anything, I have the MPE on my F10, it's just rebadged Akra if you ask me.

Akra ti is the best on the market, it just oozes quality.
Agreed!
Yeah let me elaborate more, the shop where I bought and installed MPE also has the Akra version, besides the tip I have compared the entire exhaust and they looked exactly the same to my eyes. Hence I believe it's just a rebadged Akra.
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Two different exhausts, Sport Exhaust will be an option($1200) when they release ZCP. M Performance exhaust will be a higher end exhaust; on the F10 this was designed in conjunction w/ Akrapovic and was about 9k if I recall correctly.

I have the Akrapovic on my current F10 M5 and love it.
New F90 MPE I don't know, but F10 MPE and Akra is the same, personally I don't think BMW designed anything, I have the MPE on my F10, it's just rebadged Akra if you ask me.

Akra ti is the best on the market, it just oozes quality.
Agreed!
Yeah let me elaborate more, the shop where I bought and installed MPE also has the Akra version, besides the tip I have compared the entire exhaust and they looked exactly the same to my eyes. Hence I believe it's just a rebadged Akra.
Yup, I have the Akra on my F10 M5. Same exact exhaust.
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You guys are right. My contact at Akra confirmed they are the same. Only bad news is he also confirmed Akra is not producing the F90 M Performance Exhaust. Makes me wonder who is ? Ti is a tough deal. He did say they hope to have their F90 ready by summer. I hope someone comes to the market soon. My X5M with Akra sounds 1000% better than my stock M5 !
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Only bad news is he also confirmed Akra is not producing the F90 M Performance Exhaust. Makes me wonder who is ?
Eberspächer Prototechnik GmbH.
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Eberspächer Prototechnik GmbH.
Thanks ! If the price starts with a “6” , I’m a buyer.
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Thanks ! If the price starts with a “6” , I’m a buyer.
Higher not including tips.
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Higher not including tips.
Uh oh. I've seen the F10 Akra for $6,900. Bought the Akra for my X5M for $6,xxx

I've seen the F10 Competition Titanium with tips new for $8,500

Will the F90 exceed $8,500 with tips ?
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Higher not including tips.
Uh oh. I've seen the F10 Akra for $6,900. Bought the Akra for my X5M for $6,xxx

I've seen the F10 Competition Titanium with tips new for $8,500

Will the F90 exceed $8,500 with tips ?
As it stands, US and Canada are the only two markets it will be sold and titanium prices are going up again. Leads to a much higher unit cost.
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As it stands, US and Canada are the only two markets it will be sold and titanium prices are going up again. Leads to a much higher unit cost.
Will the Msport exhaust be sold over the counter for $1250 or will it be just a new car option ?

If “over the counter” , will it be just the different resonator and tips ?
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Will the Msport exhaust be sold over the counter for $1250 or will it be just a new car option ?

If “over the counter” , will it be just the different resonator and tips ?
I have ordered the MSport exhaust which is just a mid pipe section. The dealer and I have noticed that it looks identical to a “non MSport” mid pipe. We’re guessing the resonator is a little less gutted on the inside. Will be installing this week to check sound difference.
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I have ordered the MSport exhaust which is just a mid pipe section. The dealer and I have noticed that it looks identical to a “non MSport” mid pipe. We’re guessing the resonator is a little less gutted on the inside. Will be installing this week to check sound difference.
Interesting. Keep us posted. My M5 is wayyyy too quiet.
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A before and after vid would be killer to compare the difference.
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As it stands, US and Canada are the only two markets it will be sold and titanium prices are going up again. Leads to a much higher unit cost.
Will the Msport exhaust be sold over the counter for $1250 or will it be just a new car option ?

If “over the counter” , will it be just the different resonator and tips ?
Not for $1250, but as GAM5OVR did, the M Sports midsection and if desired OEM Black Chrome tips can be purchased at any parts counter for just a bit more than that amount.
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I have ordered the MSport exhaust which is just a mid pipe section. The dealer and I have noticed that it looks identical to a “non MSport” mid pipe. We’re guessing the resonator is a little less gutted on the inside. Will be installing this week to check sound difference.
Any chance you can post the P/N?
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