Wheel Rubbing!

HarjotM · 06-10-2008, 04:33 PM

Hello,
I just upgraded my e92 to 20" iForged essen wheels, the rear tires are 285/25ZR-20 , and whenever I go over a bump or uneven surface with just a tad bit speed, i can hear the rubbing, i dont know if its minor or something more than that.
Whats the best solution to get this fixed? coil overs? suspension? roll fender?

any help would be appreciated, thank you.

Lazzer · 06-10-2008, 04:34 PM

roll fender or get not as wide tires.

HarjotM · 06-10-2008, 04:42 PM

what if I dont do anything, what kind of damage am I looking at resulting from this rubbing and over what amount of time?

Lazzer · 06-10-2008, 04:55 PM

Worst case scenario crack or dent your fenders or just paint damage. Depends on how hard it hits. I guess if your tracking your car and drive it hard it can have ill affect on the handling as well.

Mine have been rubbing for a month now really no damage just trying to find a shop to perform a nice fender roll.

HarjotM · 06-10-2008, 05:04 PM

I have the exact same problem, i found a shop that will rent me the fender roller but they will not do it for me mainly because there is a chance for paint chipping while rolling fenders and they dont wanna deal with the liability which i dont blame them for.
The rubbing is not that bad, just here and there, and also I have been driving it with caution.
I was also suggested a Cambridge kit? but then was told this will cause the tire thread to wear out quicker.

CPI · 06-10-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HarjotM

I have the exact same problem, i found a shop that will rent me the fender roller but they will not do it for me mainly because there is a chance for paint chipping while rolling fenders and they dont wanna deal with the liability which i dont blame them for.
The rubbing is not that bad, just here and there, and also I have been driving it with caution.
I was also suggested a Cambridge kit? but then was told this will cause the tire thread to wear out quicker.

Screamin Paintworks will roll your fenders for you! they do a really good job. Check on beyond.ca for the reviews.

You can camber the rear wheels in next time you go in for an alignment or switch out tires. What kind of tires are you running?

HarjotM · 06-10-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CPI

Screamin Paintworks will roll your fenders for you! they do a really good job. Check on beyond.ca for the reviews.

You can camber the rear wheels in next time you go in for an alignment or switch out tires. What kind of tires are you running?

so once the fenders are rolled, i should not need the camber kit, right?

and with camber kit i will be wearing out the tires quicker, no?

285/25ZR-20 for rear
245/30ZR-20 for front

CPI · 06-10-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HarjotM

so once the fenders are rolled, i should not need the camber kit, right?

and with camber kit i will be wearing out the tires quicker, no?

285/25ZR-20 for rear
245/30ZR-20 for front

Check to see how much space there is between the fender and the tire. See where the tire is rubbing. Rolling the fender should technically fix the problem.

I should come check out your rims lol

BimmerFan61 · 06-11-2008, 08:00 AM

I have this exact setup, same wheels, tires etc. Mine barely rubs and Im lowered. Just get the fenders rolled and you will be fine

yoyeewee · 06-17-2008, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lifo

I have this exact setup, same wheels, tires etc. Mine barely rubs and Im lowered. Just get the fenders rolled and you will be fine

+1 mee too...i rolled my fenders and lowered my car with eibach springs after installing the 20" wheels. now, no more rubbing.

BlownM3 · 06-17-2008, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarjotM

Hello,
I just upgraded my e92 to 20" iForged essen wheels, the rear tires are 285/25ZR-20 , and whenever I go over a bump or uneven surface with just a tad bit speed, i can hear the rubbing, i dont know if its minor or something more than that.
Whats the best solution to get this fixed? coil overs? suspension? roll fender?

any help would be appreciated, thank you.

what brand tires are you running?

SantaClawz · 06-17-2008, 02:25 PM

try bump stops?

SantaClawz · 06-17-2008, 02:31 PM

i had the same exact problem. with 285/25/20 falkens with 20 inch essens.

i had to roll the fenders, then shave the fenders, then put bump stops in. it was insane. now my right fender is fucked, and im gonna have a major penalty when my lease return comes around. LOL.

Please make your decision with much thought!

HarjotM · 06-18-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SantaClawz

i had the same exact problem. with 285/25/20 falkens with 20 inch essens.

i had to roll the fenders, then shave the fenders, then put bump stops in. it was insane. now my right fender is fucked, and im gonna have a major penalty when my lease return comes around. LOL.

Please make your decision with much thought!

so rolling the fenders wont fix it?

HarjotM · 06-18-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BlownM3

what brand tires are you running?

Pirelli

BMW F22 · 06-18-2008, 06:24 PM

Rolling the fender should solve the problem but that's assuming that it's a tire issue and not a wheel issue (offset, size). If it's a tire issue rolling fender should fix the problem. If it's an offset issue and it's rubbing against the struts then you will need some spacers to push the wheels out and then roll fenders. You would have to first determine where it's rubbing though.

E90 ANdy · 06-18-2008, 07:05 PM

if it is because of rear camber being too straight it could cause rubbing also. When you get an alignment make the rear camber -2 or so.. its still within factory spec but yeah, will tuck your wheels in atad more ( assuming you're rubbing on the outside of the fender

some camber and a fender roll will solve just about everything when used together. maybe some thinner tires such as falken or toyos too!

BMW MotorSport · 06-20-2008, 06:37 PM

are your wheels still rubbing or did you solve it by doing the fender roll?

HarjotM · 06-20-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW MotorSport

are your wheels still rubbing or did you solve it by doing the fender roll?

they are still rubbing, but I just go with controlled speed so its bit better, but only the tires are rubbing as far as i can tell because they have rub marks on the side. so is fender roll the way to go?

yoyeewee · 06-21-2008, 01:17 AM

yeah...roll the fenders. my car doesn't rub anymore since i lowered it and rolled the fenders. it actually rubbed more at stock height without rolling the fenders. so, rolling the fenders obviously fixed the problem for me.

m-technik · 06-21-2008, 03:33 AM

Fender rolling is not that big of a deal if it’s done properly, just get it done and that should be the end of your problems. There’s got to be a shop around you that does it. Lots of wheel and tuner shops do it around here for about $50 a fender. The paint cracking issue can usually be minimized by first heating up the paint before rolling the fender.

BimmerFan61 · 06-22-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SantaClawz

i had the same exact problem. with 285/25/20 falkens with 20 inch essens.

i had to roll the fenders, then shave the fenders, then put bump stops in. it was insane. now my right fender is fucked, and im gonna have a major penalty when my lease return comes around. LOL.

Please make your decision with much thought!

How low is your car? So weird that I barely ever rub on 20" essens with 285 and Im lowered on KW

I didnt roll the fenders because its so rare now. Probably Iforged not being consistent with their offsets. Would not suprise me in the least!

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HarjotM Test Pilot :) 26 Rep 210 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Calgary iTrader: (0)	what if I dont do anything, what kind of damage am I looking at resulting from this rubbing and over what amount of time? __________________ On the way: Saphire Black 335i / Coral Red leather Interior / Aluminum Trim / 6 Speed paddle shifters / Active Steer / Logic 7 Sound system / Sports Package/Premium Package / Navigation / Comfort Access / Bluetooth & BMW Assist / Factory Alarm / 3M protection full facial hood protection With Me: '05 325i Silver Grey with black leather, 5spd Tiptronic , sports package and premium package '98 Civic EX sedan Dark Green, 4spd auto Departed: '02 Boxster 'S' Silver with Red leather int, 6spd
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Lazzer The Specialist 5 Rep 336 Posts Drives: E90/335i, E70/4.8 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (1)	Worst case scenario crack or dent your fenders or just paint damage. Depends on how hard it hits. I guess if your tracking your car and drive it hard it can have ill affect on the handling as well. Mine have been rubbing for a month now really no damage just trying to find a shop to perform a nice fender roll.
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HarjotM Test Pilot :) 26 Rep 210 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Calgary iTrader: (0)	I have the exact same problem, i found a shop that will rent me the fender roller but they will not do it for me mainly because there is a chance for paint chipping while rolling fenders and they dont wanna deal with the liability which i dont blame them for. The rubbing is not that bad, just here and there, and also I have been driving it with caution. I was also suggested a Cambridge kit? but then was told this will cause the tire thread to wear out quicker. __________________ On the way: Saphire Black 335i / Coral Red leather Interior / Aluminum Trim / 6 Speed paddle shifters / Active Steer / Logic 7 Sound system / Sports Package/Premium Package / Navigation / Comfort Access / Bluetooth & BMW Assist / Factory Alarm / 3M protection full facial hood protection With Me: '05 325i Silver Grey with black leather, 5spd Tiptronic , sports package and premium package '98 Civic EX sedan Dark Green, 4spd auto Departed: '02 Boxster 'S' Silver with Red leather int, 6spd
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