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???M2C + CF + Dinan or Cayman GT4?
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M2C=@$59k Carbon Fiber, wheels/tires, other goodies =@$15k Dinan S55 P2 package= $8k plus $1k install Grand Total= 59+15+9= $83K for the M2, the way I would spec it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2016 GT4= @$90-100k... New(2019?) GT4= @$100-110k... Besides not having the kids car seats in the back, I'm having real trouble coming up with reasons to buy the M2 over GT4. I've been in love with the M2 for 18 months or so when I saw my first 2 series "race car" in the show room. I asked the dealer what that was and if he could sell it to me... he told me no but I could put a deposit down on the next closest thing. I have since picked up another potential slot at a 2nd dealership(increasing my odds) With all the add-on costs that I would not be able to resist adding it pushes the car into a price range that IMO it should not be. I haven't driven a Cayman in about 5 years now(and it was a baby cayman at that). I have driven M2's M3's and 911's. At 60k the m2 is in a sweet spot... pushing +80k isn't the deal I signed up for. Don't get me wrong, I know I can have a WONDERFUL M2 or M2C around MSRP, but I know I couldn't help myself with these parts that BMW are adding UNLESS we have to have them installed after the fact at our own shop of choice... that is another thing that may sour this experience
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I’ve been offering you my help now for weeks. I’ll take your M2c allocations off your hands and relieve you of this awful burden.
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The M2 will punch above it’s weight...but not that much. If you can ever swing a new GT level Porsche, especially this one if it has a NA engine, then that’s the route to go. If the 718 GT4 gets the slightly defined 4.0L F6...it might be the best car Porsche has ever made.
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Get the M2C...it has a lot more scope for tuning than the GT4 and at a much cheaper price.
You can also seat 2 adults at the back The M2C with the carbon bits and Cup 2 tyres should already be faster than the 981 GT4 at the Nürburgring. Down the track there might be factory ECU reflash power upgrade option that augment its performance. Not to mention there already exist plenty of aftermarket ECU reflash options for the S55. Last edited by Karmic Man; 05-08-2018 at 10:54 PM.. |
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Firstly I wouldn't buy a used Porsche unless it is a CPO. There are 33 CPO GT4's on Porsche website. Cheapest being $98k with 14k miles.
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If I could get my hands on a GT4 at MSRP, I would be all over it no question. However, if I did that, I would also have to buy another car as my dd. I can't imagine dd'ing the GT4 unlike the M2C which will be my dd, weekend, and track warrior all at the same time just like my M4.
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Question is how much will the 718 GT4 cost? The fact it will have the 4.0L in it will surely make it a $100k car. Just a matter of how much over $100k the msrp will be. Probably add another $8-$10k in options, can't do a GT4 without the carbon buckets. Maybe they will have front axle lift available for the 718 version.
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As a bare minimum $20k extra Coloured rims, leather dash, carbon bucket seats, sports exhaust Easily $30k extra and beyond |
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PS.. honestly.. it sounds like you are trying to find reasons not to buy.. " OH NO.. I will spend so much on mods that now it's gonna be a poor value! " Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 05-09-2018 at 02:55 PM.. |
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Why not both?
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I agree.. he is not looking at base... However.. Cayman prices are as follows: base - $56,900 , Cayman S - $69,300 , and Cayman GTS - $82,800 - and all have the 4 cyl motor.. I think it's quite interesting that the complaint is that a $56-58K BMW M2 COMP was ok.. but an 80K BMW M2 loaded with all options and aftermarket doodads including an 8K Dinan power package is not.. when the competing model he is referencing began at 85K in it's last iteration and the new model is rumored to be around 100K https://www.topspeed.com/cars/porsch...-ar170443.html Even if the 718 Cayman comes with a 4.0L motor and is priced at 92K... once he sees the options list for IT.. he will be complaining that it's not a good value *either* because it will be well into 911 territory with all the options he wants to put on IT. A 911 Carrera is $91,000 , the 911 T is $102,000 and a 911 Carrerra S is $105,000 ... heck a 911 Carrera GTS would be just $120K... etc etc.. In other words... I am having fun continuing the OP's obvious paralysis by analysis. Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 05-09-2018 at 06:49 PM.. |
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Its not really about the money. It's more about the correct car. Only so much garage space. I'm well aware of those 30 something cars 🕵🏼, I have an "in" with Porsche. I ❤️ the M2, that's why I am still here.
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U got me 😘 It's GT4/GT3 or bust if I go P Car.
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I COMPLETELY agree that I need to drive a 3.8L GT4 to make my own decision. Problem is... Either way, it's a tuff decision. I've driven A friend's Carerra GTS... Feels big and a bit heavy(nitpicking)
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I drove a GT4 on the street and relatively sane speeds and was quite underwhelmed. Drove the M2 a couple days later and couldn't wipe the smile off my face.
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