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Right there with a Panamera Turbo, and better looking to boot.
I was hoping it would beat the Giula QV's time, but it looked like it didn't cope as well with the extra weight. Very impressive though. |
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SA's test on the ring is two laps only, first lap warm up and second timed lap. I'm sure BMW themselves can do better. To give you an idea, BMW has quoted factory time for M4 GTS which was 7:28, SA's M4 GTS test they did 7:37. |
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Great lap time. Beats the E63 S Wagon by 6.2s. The E63 S sedan would probably lose by 2 or 3s to the M5. Great results upon comparing with the Giulia and Panamera Turbo as well. The Panny Turbo would do at least 7:45 on the hands of SA pilot, and the Giulia would be slower than the 7:38. The M5 is the current big daddy of the saloons.
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The margin of driver error, even for a pro driver on the ring is a couple seconds. Remember, this is just the second lap in the car after a warm up, so it's a very real world time that a pro driver can repeatedly achieve. Anything SA tested around 7:36 - 7:40 would be a drivers race. So you know, your 458's, LFA's, GT-R's, Vette ZR1's all would make for a thrilling race against a 4250lb, five-seat sedan!!! Bravo BMW, bravo!
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That is a massive difference. |
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You mean 7:34 for the GTR. You can’t compare factory times with Sport Auto Times, which you probably already know. ( 1 timed lap vs unlimited laps with an entire mechanical crew and plenty of tinkering) So.... 5 seconds away from a 2 seat, singular purpose $100k car. That’s why the 7:39 is so impressive. I can go to Costco with my family of 5 in a 7:39 car. I’m sure you can too in your Nissan Altima.
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20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:18 Porsche 911 GT3 (991.2) 20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:18.1 Donkervoort D8 RS 20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:19 Radical SR3 Turbo 20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:19.1 Nissan GT-R (2012) 20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:19.63 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2012) 20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:21 Ferrari 488 GTB 2016 |
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However, what he's trying to tell you is that those are manufacturer quoted times on "stock" vehicles after countless lapping in likely perfect conditions by racecar drivers. The M5s time was clocked independently of the manufacturer by a car magazine, on limited track time, random weather, on a customer car, and no BMW tech support. All that with a journalist driver, a clearly very good one though. Do you see the difference? |
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Irrelevant , it is 20-30s slower than the 7:19 and 7:08 of the GTR, a lifetime -or- ‘world’s apart’.
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Sport Auto on the other hand usually does TWO laps - and takes the time. Has no interest in one car doing well or not well - and does this for all cars. You keep comparing the two. Don't. Compare SA vs SA - and then chime in. |
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BMW should have no problem breaking the 7:30 mark. Last try...They got the same time as the M5 with a Ferrari 458. If you’re not impressed with that time from a 4250lb 5 seat sedan, there is nothing more we can say to you. Last edited by SpeedyDad; 06-02-2018 at 02:32 PM.. |
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Doesn’t the Panamera Turbo achieve the same time as the M5 with almost 200lbs more weight? Lol |
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Really still debating the 16+ foot, 4500+ lb, four door, luxury GT car with massaging seats vs a purpose built performance car 10 seconds - maybe - quicker - over a 13 MILE road course? Cool story. |
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Same time by factory effort with a track prepped car with a rollcage, unknown tyres, unknown power figure, several lap attempts etc. Compared to a magazine lap time set with a customer car on the first attempt.
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