Cobb/chargepipe/intercooler.. is it worth it alone?

bill109 · 08-21-2018, 09:46 PM

Hey guys,
Long story short I’ve got the wrong car. It’s an 2011 335i xdrive 6mt.
Love it, it’s just slow.

Starting to think mods. What I can do is..
Cobb tune
Chargepipe
Intercooler
Other than that, I cannot do the downpipe or even a diverter valve because both of those require dropping the subframe. Just not interested in going through that so... my question is. Those three mods, are they worth it for the cars sake to get a little extra power, probably just stick with a stage 1 tune since I’m afraid to mess up the oem catted downpipe. (Right?)
Help

dpark · 08-22-2018, 03:18 AM

Charge pipe
Intercooler
MHD stage 1+

Don't know how fast you intend on going, but this should be sufficient for any daily driver.

maddmatth · 08-25-2018, 07:46 PM

Yep ran my car with equivalent mods and MHD stage 1+ for a long time. It was a nice boost over stock, made the car more enjoyable to drive. It's worth it if you want more power.
Go MHD rather than the Cobb tune. Cobb stopped development a long time ago but MHD is still actively improving both their app and the tunes.

redwildcat17 · 08-26-2018, 02:05 PM

+1 on the mhd 1+. Run it on my e90 xdrive with a mishimoto intercooler and Cobb charge pipe and it runs great. Very good power over stock

E92n55slo · 08-26-2018, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill109

Hey guys,
Long story short I’ve got the wrong car. It’s an 2011 335i xdrive 6mt.
Love it, it’s just slow.

Starting to think mods. What I can do is..
Cobb tune
Chargepipe
Intercooler
Other than that, I cannot do the downpipe or even a diverter valve because both of those require dropping the subframe. Just not interested in going through that so... my question is. Those three mods, are they worth it for the cars sake to get a little extra power, probably just stick with a stage 1 tune since I’m afraid to mess up the oem catted downpipe. (Right?)
Help

Mhd tune and you can do downpipe without dropping subframe

bill109 · 08-26-2018, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redwildcat17

+1 on the mhd 1+. Run it on my e90 xdrive with a mishimoto intercooler and Cobb charge pipe and it runs great. Very good power over stock

Good to hear, any harm done to xdrive with the added power..? I'd imagine the awd system should be able to hold its own until about 400 horse? It's been in the back of my mind it could damage the awd system.

bill109 · 08-26-2018, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E92n55slo

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill109

Hey guys,
Long story short I've got the wrong car. It's an 2011 335i xdrive 6mt.
Love it, it's just slow.

Starting to think mods. What I can do is..
Cobb tune
Chargepipe
Intercooler
Other than that, I cannot do the downpipe or even a diverter valve because both of those require dropping the subframe. Just not interested in going through that so... my question is. Those three mods, are they worth it for the cars sake to get a little extra power, probably just stick with a stage 1 tune since I'm afraid to mess up the oem catted downpipe. (Right?)
Help

Mhd tune and you can do downpipe without dropping subframe

Would love to know how. General consensus for downpipe install for xdrive is dropping the subframe a few inches to get the large oem one out while the new one is much smaller and should fit.
However I feel as if a catted downpipe would be a better choice for me to pass emissions here in MA. I'm assuming an aftermarket catted dp is just as large. Any experience/insight you could share as far as install goes and catted/vs catless?

redwildcat17 · 08-26-2018, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill109

Quote:

Originally Posted by redwildcat17

+1 on the mhd 1+. Run it on my e90 xdrive with a mishimoto intercooler and Cobb charge pipe and it runs great. Very good power over stock

Good to hear, any harm done to xdrive with the added power..? I'd imagine the awd system should be able to hold its own until about 400 horse? It's been in the back of my mind it could damage the awd system.

I hear people running 500's and 600's with it. I just wouldn't launch the car at that point. But yeah with stage 1+ and 2 you can launch the awd all day, no issues for me yet. Plus the awd grip is awesome

redwildcat17 · 08-26-2018, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill109

Quote:

Originally Posted by E92n55slo

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill109

Hey guys,
Long story short I've got the wrong car. It's an 2011 335i xdrive 6mt.
Love it, it's just slow.

Starting to think mods. What I can do is..
Cobb tune
Chargepipe
Intercooler
Other than that, I cannot do the downpipe or even a diverter valve because both of those require dropping the subframe. Just not interested in going through that so... my question is. Those three mods, are they worth it for the cars sake to get a little extra power, probably just stick with a stage 1 tune since I'm afraid to mess up the oem catted downpipe. (Right?)
Help

Mhd tune and you can do downpipe without dropping subframe

Would love to know how. General consensus for downpipe install for xdrive is dropping the subframe a few inches to get the large oem one out while the new one is much smaller and should fit.
However I feel as if a catted downpipe would be a better choice for me to pass emissions here in MA. I'm assuming an aftermarket catted dp is just as large. Any experience/insight you could share as far as install goes and catted/vs catless?

Would also like to know this as I'm putting a catless downpipe in my car shortly

EB89 · 09-03-2018, 12:11 AM

- MHD Stage 2+ Flash Tune
- VRSF Catless Downpipe
- VRSF 7.5 Inch Stepped Race FMIC
- VRSF Charge Pipe

NO COBB TUNE its outdated

Get someone to install the downpipe if you cant do it, its worth it.

Welcome to NBA Jam · 09-03-2018, 03:39 PM

Cobb is no longer supporting the N55. You will be better off with MHD.

Turbod · 09-03-2018, 03:56 PM

I would look into ethanol near you as well and run E30.

mike@x-ph.com · 09-04-2018, 10:27 PM

I would switch the Cobb with a Jb4 and get VRSF or AA intercooler + charge pipe.

Tiago@VRSF · 09-08-2018, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EB89

- MHD Stage 2+ Flash Tune
- VRSF Catless Downpipe
- VRSF 7.5 Inch Stepped Race FMIC
- VRSF Charge Pipe

NO COBB TUNE its outdated

Get someone to install the downpipe if you cant do it, its worth it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welcome to NBA Jam

Cobb is no longer supporting the N55. You will be better off with MHD.

Thanks for the support! I can't agree more, there are more recent/innovative options available in terms of both hardware and software for this platform.

dubzz24 · 09-08-2018, 01:46 AM

I also have a 2011 335i x-drive 6spd and also felt it’s a little lacking in power. The first thing I did was a MHD stage 1 tune, and with just that I took it to the track and ran a 13.4@103mph. It still just wasn’t quick enough for my liking so I bit the bullet a few weeks back and ordered the VRSF full bolt-on setup (catless downpipe, 7” HD intercooler, chargepipe, and lower intercooler hard pipe).

The HD intercooler was highly recommended by everyone I’ve seen who has it, and it actually DROPS intake air temperatures through longer runs which is really impressive.

The parts except the intercooler came in this week as it was on backorder and I literally just got finished installing the downpipe about an hour ago. The subframe does need to be lowered slightly, but it’s really not an issue. I only needed to lower it by less than half an inch so I just slowly loosened the 3 subframe mounting bolts on the pass side until I had enough clearance, and the subframe stays bolted in, just loosely. Not a big deal at all.

I haven’t had a chance to drive it yet as I still need to finish putting the splash shields and some of the upper engine parts back together but I fired it up to make sure there were no exhaust leaks and I can say it sounds great at idle and low rpm revving. Just a little louder than stock but way nicer tone and with the MHD you get the awesome exhaust burble option.

Oh, and our x-drive cars have a second set of cats in the mid pipes. Those aren’t just resonators. I’ve had full catless cars before and they stink bad. From my quick startup I can say that it smelled completely normal, probably thanks to the extra cats we have.

Good luck with whatever you decide!

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bill109 Private 19 Rep 64 Posts Drives: e60 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: mass iTrader: (0)	Cobb/chargepipe/intercooler.. is it worth it alone? Hey guys, Long story short I’ve got the wrong car. It’s an 2011 335i xdrive 6mt. Love it, it’s just slow. Starting to think mods. What I can do is.. Cobb tune Chargepipe Intercooler Other than that, I cannot do the downpipe or even a diverter valve because both of those require dropping the subframe. Just not interested in going through that so... my question is. Those three mods, are they worth it for the cars sake to get a little extra power, probably just stick with a stage 1 tune since I’m afraid to mess up the oem catted downpipe. (Right?) Help
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08-22-2018, 03:18 AM	#2
dpark Private First Class 11 Rep 105 Posts Drives: BMW 335i E92 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sydney, NSW iTrader: (0)	Charge pipe Intercooler MHD stage 1+ Don't know how fast you intend on going, but this should be sufficient for any daily driver.
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maddmatth Major 555 Rep 922 Posts Drives: F82 M4, E92 335i Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: New Zealand iTrader: (0)	Yep ran my car with equivalent mods and MHD stage 1+ for a long time. It was a nice boost over stock, made the car more enjoyable to drive. It's worth it if you want more power. Go MHD rather than the Cobb tune. Cobb stopped development a long time ago but MHD is still actively improving both their app and the tunes.
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redwildcat17 Private First Class 31 Rep 140 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 335i xdrive m sport Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: madison, WI iTrader: (0)	+1 on the mhd 1+. Run it on my e90 xdrive with a mishimoto intercooler and Cobb charge pipe and it runs great. Very good power over stock
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EB89 Brigadier General 541 Rep 3,131 Posts Drives: 2011 335i e92 DCT Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Australia, NSW iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 335i e92 [0.00]	- MHD Stage 2+ Flash Tune - VRSF Catless Downpipe - VRSF 7.5 Inch Stepped Race FMIC - VRSF Charge Pipe NO COBB TUNE its outdated Get someone to install the downpipe if you cant do it, its worth it. __________________ / MHD Stage 2+ / AR CATLESS DP / PE MOD 4 INCH TIPS / BMR FMIC / K&N DROP IN / BMS CP /
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Welcome to NBA Jam Is it the shoes!? 3884 Rep 5,112 Posts Drives: (Sold) 2011 E92 335i ZMP 6MT Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: USA iTrader: (1)	Cobb is no longer supporting the N55. You will be better off with MHD.
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Turbod Major 396 Rep 1,210 Posts Drives: 2014 E84 X1 35i M Sport Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	I would look into ethanol near you as well and run E30. __________________ 2011 E92 335i \| 11.7@125 SOLD 2017 Camaro SS \| 12.7@114 SOLD 2019 Audi TT RS \| 10.5@130 SOLD 2020 F97 X3M \| 11.0@123 2023 G80 M3 xDrive
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dubzz24 Private First Class 117 Rep 147 Posts Drives: 2022 M3 Comp xDrive Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (0)	I also have a 2011 335i x-drive 6spd and also felt it’s a little lacking in power. The first thing I did was a MHD stage 1 tune, and with just that I took it to the track and ran a 13.4@103mph. It still just wasn’t quick enough for my liking so I bit the bullet a few weeks back and ordered the VRSF full bolt-on setup (catless downpipe, 7” HD intercooler, chargepipe, and lower intercooler hard pipe). The HD intercooler was highly recommended by everyone I’ve seen who has it, and it actually DROPS intake air temperatures through longer runs which is really impressive. The parts except the intercooler came in this week as it was on backorder and I literally just got finished installing the downpipe about an hour ago. The subframe does need to be lowered slightly, but it’s really not an issue. I only needed to lower it by less than half an inch so I just slowly loosened the 3 subframe mounting bolts on the pass side until I had enough clearance, and the subframe stays bolted in, just loosely. Not a big deal at all. I haven’t had a chance to drive it yet as I still need to finish putting the splash shields and some of the upper engine parts back together but I fired it up to make sure there were no exhaust leaks and I can say it sounds great at idle and low rpm revving. Just a little louder than stock but way nicer tone and with the MHD you get the awesome exhaust burble option. Oh, and our x-drive cars have a second set of cats in the mid pipes. Those aren’t just resonators. I’ve had full catless cars before and they stink bad. From my quick startup I can say that it smelled completely normal, probably thanks to the extra cats we have. Good luck with whatever you decide!
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