[ammo33]

I just placed my order for first week of DEC Build for 40i
A96-Mineral White Metalic
VASW - Black Extended Merino Leather
ZDY - Driving Assistance Professional Package
ZLS - Luxury Seating Package
ZMP - M Sport Package
1PA - 22” 742M Wheels
ZPP - Premium Package
ZPX - Executive Package
4ML - Piano Finish Black Trim
2NH - M sport brakes
4A2 - Glass Controls
4HA - Front and Rear Heated Seats
4HB - Heated Front Seat Armrests & Steering Wheel
4M5 - Leather Dashboard
6F1 - Bowers & Wilkins
6FH - Rear Seat Entertainment

However I was unable to order these options with my build
2VH - Integral Active Steering
2VR - 2 axle air suspension
4UB - 3rd Row seat

The system would kick out all my other options when I tried to add these 3 options. My SA said he would try add them later on closer to the build date.
Is anyone having Similar issues?

[scottjays]

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[JayPichardo]

December builds will be available to order starting next month.

[ammo33]

Originally Posted by NH_F36

December builds will be available to order starting next month.

So tomorrow? September?

[ScottMZ3]

The 3rd row seating is SOP 12/18, so it's possible that is why the order is getting kicked back. I'm not sure if that means starting 12/1/18 or perhaps a later week in December.

[JayPichardo]

Originally Posted by ammo33

So tomorrow? September?

When BMW issues new allocations next week.

[ammo33]

Originally Posted by NH_F36

When BMW issues new allocations next week.

Thanks for your help! I will have my SA submit for a new build or try to edit my build next week. I hope it works this time

[magna6882]

In looking at the order guide 2vh active steering requires ordering 2vr two axle air or zor off road package. my guess is the m sport package comes with adaptive m suspension which may not be compatable with the air suspension. Our q7 has air suspension with rear steering and it rides great. i would also like to have rear steer since it works so well on the audi. this is just my quess so if some knows morw please chime in

[akhter]

I can confirm that you c an get 2vr with m sport since my order has both. But I don't have USA spec car. I order Hk spec which has m brake m exhaust and 2vf is standard on x line and m sport. Usa people don't complain since we are paying a lot more for our cars.

[bichoo]

Originally Posted by magna6882

In looking at the order guide 2vh active steering requires ordering 2vr two axle air or zor off road package. my guess is the m sport package comes with adaptive m suspension which may not be compatable with the air suspension. Our q7 has air suspension with rear steering and it rides great. i would also like to have rear steer since it works so well on the audi. this is just my quess so if some knows morw please chime in

Here in canada, you cant get both M adaptive suspension and air suspension together; you pick one or the other. From a performance standpoint, I would think that M suspension is the better route to go instead of air suspension. I may just wait to test drive both and then decide

[bavaria22]

I can confirm that it is possible to order the M Sport Package with "Integral Active Steering". However when selecting the option "2 axle air Suspension", the option "M adaptive suspension" disappears.

So which option is better? If I order the "2 axle air Suspension", do I still get the Sport/Sport+ modes?

[ADGrant]

Originally Posted by bichoo

Here in canada, you cant get both M adaptive suspension and air suspension together; you pick one or the other. From a performance standpoint, I would think that M suspension is the better route to go instead of air suspension. I may just wait to test drive both and then decide

That is an interesting question. The air suspension allows the car to be lowered slightly and can also be configured with active steering. Both might help more with handling than the M suspension. If you get the air suspension as part of the off-road package, that will include tha active M rear diff which might also enhance handling though it is included to enhance off-road performance.

[akhter]

2 axle is better. Check bmw.de in Chrome with translate Turned on. The have three suspensions. Stock, m adaptive which is ddc and 2 axle air which ddc plus air on two axle. If u chose 2 axle with m sport it costs less than by itself and deselect m adaptive.

[bavaria22]

Originally Posted by akhter

2 axle is better. Check bmw.de in Chrome with translate Turned on. The have three suspensions. Stock, m adaptive which is ddc and 2 axle air which ddc plus air on two axle. If u chose 2 axle with m sport it costs less than by itself and deselect m adaptive.

Yes I have done that. Selecting M Sport and then selecting 2 axle air subsequently removes the M adaptive/DCC.

Just wondering if that is a bad thing, i.e. am I missing out on something?
Or is this like when selecting the parking assistant plus, the regular parking assistant disappears (as it is already included in parking assistant plus)?

[Auricom]

Originally Posted by bavaria22

Yes I have done that. Selecting M Sport and then selecting 2 axle air subsequently removes the M adaptive/DCC.

Just wondering if that is a bad thing, i.e. am I missing out on something?
Or is this like when selecting the parking assistant plus, the regular parking assistant disappears (as it is already included in parking assistant plus)?

Selecting 2 axle air suspension doesn't delete DDC. With 2 axle air suspension, you'll still have the DDC controls and when SPORT driving mode is selected or the vehicle's speed exceeds 86 mph, the ride height is automatically lowered by 0.8 inches.

Bonus for 2 axle air is making lower/raise making loading/unloading and especially getting in/out of the vehicle easier in addition to adjusting the body's ground clearance for off-road driving.

As far as what's better?
I think it depends on what your needs are.

For average consumers, DDC is more than enough.

Sport drivers, M Sport with Adaptive M suspension.

For more ride comfort, 2 axle air suspension balances to control vehicle load and vertical adjustment.

Initially available only on 6-cyl xLine or V8 -
Off-road package for the off roaders or individuals who want more terrain control (Land Rover).

Launching only on V8, you have the coveted Dynamic Handling Package with adaptive M pro, active roll stabilization, integral active steering and M sport differential which makes a big vehicle such as this more agile with flatter corner response.

[spike5150]

Originally Posted by akhter

Usa people don't complain since we are paying a lot more for our cars.

Well, that’s not going to keep us from complaining!

[akhter]

Originally Posted by Auricom

Selecting 2 axle air suspension doesn't delete DDC. With 2 axle air suspension, you'll still have the DDC controls and when SPORT driving mode is selected or the vehicle’s speed exceeds 86 mph, the ride height is automatically lowered by 0.8 inches.

Bonus for 2 axle air is making lower/raise making loading/unloading and especially getting in/out of the vehicle easier in addition to adjusting the body’s ground clearance for off-road driving.

As far as what's better?
I think it depends on what your needs are.

For average consumers, DDC is more than enough.

Sport drivers, M Sport with Adaptive M suspension.

For more ride comfort, 2 axle air suspension balances to control vehicle load and vertical adjustment.

"Off road" Off-road package for the off roaders or individuals who want more terrain control (Land Rover).

Then you have the coveted Dynamic Handling Package with adaptive M pro, active roll stabilization, integral active steering and M sport differential which makes a big vehicle such as this more agile with flatter corner response.

I think 2 axle is better than m adaptive in every way since you get all the benefits of sport (ddc) but the comfort setting is far more comfortable and you get the ride lowering which make entry and sport better (lower center of gravity).

[ADGrant]

Originally Posted by Auricom

Selecting 2 axle air suspension doesn't delete DDC. With 2 axle air suspension, you'll still have the DDC controls and when SPORT driving mode is selected or the vehicle’s speed exceeds 86 mph, the ride height is automatically lowered by 0.8 inches.

Bonus for 2 axle air is making lower/raise making loading/unloading and especially getting in/out of the vehicle easier in addition to adjusting the body’s ground clearance for off-road driving.

As far as what's better?
I think it depends on what your needs are.

For average consumers, DDC is more than enough.

Sport drivers, M Sport with Adaptive M suspension.

For more ride comfort, 2 axle air suspension balances to control vehicle load and vertical adjustment.

"Off road" Off-road package for the off roaders or individuals who want more terrain control (Land Rover).

Then you have the coveted Dynamic Handling Package with adaptive M pro, active roll stabilization, integral active steering and M sport differential which makes a big vehicle such as this more agile with flatter corner response.

DHP is not available on the 6 cylinder model, if you want it you need to order the V8.

[Auricom]

Originally Posted by ADGrant

DHP is not available on the 6 cylinder model, if you want it you need to order the V8.

Correct. I should have added a note to that effect. Same for off road package which is only available on 6-cyl xLine or V8 in the US.

[X519]

Originally Posted by akhter

I think 2 axle is better than m adaptive in every way since you get all the benefits of sport (ddc) but the comfort setting is far more comfortable and you get the ride lowering which make entry and sport better (lower center of gravity).

Super interested in this - can you/anyone please elaborate more ?
I have been reading the old threads in the forum to research this further.

I see the oft-referenced and useful [!] suspension comparison image - but that is a little bit older and now DDC is standard on all models (yay!), so to optimize for ride comfort (esp. while driving with family ), I am trying to choose between 2VR air-suspension + DDC versus M-sport package w/Adaptive M suspension + DDC - with both set to comfort setting. Sadly, in the US, it appears that initially we only get to pick one I am afraid that the answer is that for more comfort, one had to get the 2-axle air, which I means I have to give up the beautiful styling and that lovely Carbon-black color - and I am not too happy to give that up

This is for US model with 21" rims, staggered tires (fatter rears) and no 3rd row. x40i (so no DHP either ).

As some forum members have commented, it appears that the base ride quality/feel seems to be mostly set by the shock absorbers/dampers, so I am hoping that DDC set to Comfort will help a good deal here ? So is it more like DDC gives you 60-70% of the ride and Air-suspension smooths out the remaining % ? or am I way off base here ?!

I guess I will test drive both options and check out when the models arrive in dealerships, but would appreciate feedback from other forum members who have tried air suspension in older models or know more on this.

Does it really 'glide' or is too 'floaty' ?
The bmw.de website offers some explanation, but still not enough or clear IMO.

Thanks in advance for any advice here!

[akhter]

2 axle air is more comfortable and sporty than m suspension two axle air has all the tools available to m adaptive plus bigger ride hight adjustment. Neither has active roll stabilization which is only on 50i models without 3rd row.

[X519]

thanks akhter. I wish we could combine M-sport + 2-axle air.Have to wait really long or import from Canada [will be expensive as he$$] or hope that adaptive-M when set to comfort + DDC will offer a better ride than the 2018 X5 base with 19" wheels.