[jw3571]

I'm debating adding the M Performance Exhaust to my build. I've only heard it in a few clips, it sounds like it's pretty loud and aggressive. Is it obnoxiously loud on the inside and outside? With the valves closed does it still sound really loud. If you are worried about this types of things should I just stick with the stock competition exhaust?

Also, what is the price for the MPE?

[MNoob]

what limey said...

[windtendo]

Originally Posted by jw3571

I'm debating adding the M Performance Exhaust to my build. I've only heard it in a few clips, it sounds like it's pretty loud and aggressive. Is it obnoxiously loud on the inside and outside? With the valves closed does it still sound really loud. If you are worried about this types of things should I just stick with the stock competition exhaust?

Also, what is the price for the MPE?

There are no valves on the M Performance exhaust, so technically it's always going to be open. Changing from Comfort to Sport+ will of course affect how loud it gets, but you still miss out on having valves to help out with the volume.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by MNoob

what limey said...

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[Ever34]

Love mine and I don't find it obnoxious at all. I daily drive mine and I'm usually in sport plus with the exhaust button off. This eliminates all the pops and crackles for when I have to drive up to a meeting. At the end of my day and on weekends the pops and crackles are back on and it makes me smile!!

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by Vic55

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Ahhhh, Vic, your sense of humor is... flexible I think is fair .

[Egrunt]

I heard the exhaust yesterday at the dealership. The M5 came equipped with the exhaust and i asked if I could hear it. It is loud, with the exhaust button illuminated inside the vehicle the salesman pressed the accelerator and when he released the cracks and the pops were loud. Loud enough that other people looking at vehicles turned there heads that were approximately 100 feet away. The cracks sounded like a bull whip hitting the ground it was loud and sharp. My wife who was inside the dealership (approximately 300 feet from the M5) heard it and also said it attracted the attention of others inside.

I thought it was cool at first but I believe it would become annoying after awhile. It does get quieter when you press the exhaust button. Funny thing is a couple looking at an X5 asked me if something was wrong with the exhaust system.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by Egrunt

I heard the exhaust yesterday at the dealership. The M5 came equipped with the exhaust and i asked if I could hear it. It is loud, with the exhaust button illuminated inside the vehicle the salesman pressed the accelerator and when he released the cracks and the pops were loud. Loud enough that other people looking at vehicles turned there heads that were approximately 100 feet away. The cracks sounded like a bull whip hitting the ground it was loud and sharp. My wife who was inside the dealership (approximately 300 feet from the M5) heard it and also said it attracted the attention of others inside.

I thought it was cool at first but I believe it would become annoying after awhile. It does get quieter when you press the exhaust button. Funny thing is a couple looking at an X5 asked me if something was wrong with the exhaust system.

Hehehe.

Everything you just said could happily be used to describe my car's exhaust sound. I think perhaps a side by side is the only way to tell.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Egrunt

I heard the exhaust yesterday at the dealership. The M5 came equipped with the exhaust and i asked if I could hear it. It is loud, with the exhaust button illuminated inside the vehicle the salesman pressed the accelerator and when he released the cracks and the pops were loud. Loud enough that other people looking at vehicles turned there heads that were approximately 100 feet away. The cracks sounded like a bull whip hitting the ground it was loud and sharp. My wife who was inside the dealership (approximately 300 feet from the M5) heard it and also said it attracted the attention of others inside.

I thought it was cool at first but I believe it would become annoying after awhile. It does get quieter when you press the exhaust button. Funny thing is a couple looking at an X5 asked me if something was wrong with the exhaust system.

I had the M Sport, it was loud on the outside but the F90 is so well insulated that I personally wanted more of an aural response to my driving habits. Thus I went aftermarket. I have heard the M performance several times in person and it carries a great tone at lower rpms and at WOT much like the Remus I have. If you like louder than it might be the way to go over the M Sport plus it has tonal changes. We lined up an F90 with M Sport and an F90 with M Performance- the difference is defintely there. The pops are over the top at times but really can be controlled via the throttle too. The button of course can reduce all situations.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by Vic55

I had the M Sport, it was loud on the outside but the F90 is so well insulated that I personally wanted more of an aural response to my driving habits. Thus I went aftermarket. I have heard the M performance several times in person and it carries a great tone at lower rpms and at WOT much like the Remus I have. If you like louder than it might be the way to go over the M Sport plus it has tonal changes. We lined up an F90 with M Sport and an F90 with M Performance- the difference is defintely there. The pops are over the top at times but really can be controlled via the throttle too. The button of course can reduce all situations.

I assume the M-Sport is the formal name for the Comp's exhaust?

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by limeypride

I assume the M-Sport is the formal name for the Comp's exhaust?

Yes, one and the same. Since I have a First Edition, my car came OEM equipped with it (listed on the monroney). But only my car comes with it that is also a non CE car. Several members did upgrade to it last summer before the CE came out; its the center pipe and the only material change. The other change is in the electronics per the tech bulletin where the M Sport equipped cars from the factory get the "heightened" active sound in the cabin via the speakers.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Yes, one and the same. Since I have a First Edition, my car came OEM equipped with it (listed on the monroney). But only my car comes with it that is also a non CE car. Several members did upgrade to it last summer before the CE came out; its the center pipe and the only material change. The other change is in the electronics per the tech bulletin where the M Sport equipped cars from the factory get the "heightened" active sound in the cabin via the speakers.

So the net net is your First Edition came spec'd with the Comp's exhaust, albeit without BMW cranking up the ASD, but you felt it needed a bit more. Do you think your E63S exhaust pushed you in that direction--let's face it, it's a bit more of everything?

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by limeypride

So the net net is your First Edition came spec'd with the Comp's exhaust, albeit without BMW cranking up the ASD, but you felt it needed a bit more. Do you think your E63S exhaust pushed you in that direction--let's face it, it's a bit more of everything?

No, my car was equipped from the factory (monroney reference) so I got the active sound bump. But others without it did the hardware change without the ASD enhancement.

The E63S didnt help my situation but Im an exhaust guy (not just when I eat mexican food) along with 10 other AMG's in my past. Arguably the best AMG exhaust came from the 6.2 and the M156 motor (I still have the C63 BS) but the M177 in the E63S and M178 in my GTS are very strong noise wise- almost classic mopar in nature. All my cars that I have now are modded in some way or another from an exhaust perspective. I love the sound of the rpms as the car moves. I would actually rather have a slightly slower car with amazing sound vs a car that just rockets out of the gate like a vacuum cleaner (hence no Tesla). So because of this and to your your point, the F90 needed some love IMHO.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by Vic55

No, my car was equipped from the factory (monroney reference) so I got the active sound bump. But others without it did the hardware change without the ASD enhancement.

I think you misunderstood me. I grocked the monroney reference (although us humans call it a 'window sticker') , I thought you were saying you didn't get the ASD tweaks... got it now.

The E63S didnt help my situation but Im an exhaust guy (not just when I eat mexican food) along with 10 other AMG's in my past. Arguably the best AMG exhaust came from the 6.2 and the M156 motor (I still have the C63 BS) but the M177 in the E63S and M178 in my GTS are very strong noise wise- almost classic mopar in nature. All my cars that I have now are modded in some way or another from an exhaust perspective. I love the sound of the rpms as the car moves. I would actually rather have a slightly slower car with amazing sound vs a car that just rockets out of the gate like a vacuum cleaner (hence no Tesla). So because of this and to your your point, the F90 needed some love IMHO.

Ah, understood.

Thx.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by limeypride

I think you misunderstood me. I grocked the monroney reference (although us humans call it a 'window sticker') , I thought you were saying you didn't get the ASD tweaks... got it now.


Ah, understood.

Thx.

Ive been in the car biz all my life so Monroney is my lingo LOL.

So I had Richard out (the one I referred you to) and we took test drives with ASD off and on. Damn it I left it on for sheer interior noise advancement LOL.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Ive been in the car biz all my life so Monroney is my lingo LOL.

So I had Richard out (the one I referred you to) and we took test drives with ASD off and on. Damn it I left it on for sheer interior noise advancement LOL.

Yeah, he pinged me to get it done. I'll PM you for thoughts since we're poisoning the thread I fear.

[jw3571]

I'm planning on driving my car in the snow, i assume the carbon tips will hold up over time if they are exposed to snow and salt?

[Ever34]

Originally Posted by jw3571

I'm planning on driving my car in the snow, i assume the carbon tips will hold up over time if they are exposed to snow and salt?

Drove mine all last winter. No issues with the carbon tips at all.

[jw3571]

Good to hear. I just need some confirmation that it sounds really good from the outside. I don't want it to sound like modded Subaru.

[Demon Barber]

The MPE sounds excellent. Deep growl, not obnoxious. They did this exhaust right.

[jw3571]

Sweet, I ended up speccing but am second guessing it a little bit.

[jw3571]

If you keep it comfort will it attract that much attention? My neighborhood isn't a fan of loud cars.