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      08-12-2019, 04:48 AM   #1
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thoughts on 2013 bmw 323i convertible

wifes saw a 335i 2013 convertible 75000 kms
- been reading on the net...the engine for this could have issues from water pump to valve cover to leaking oil gaskets...not sure if to stay away..as well it has a hard top...people still drive hard top convertible in the winter without issues for the hard top
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also would you buy the warranty for $3360 for 80000 or 48 months,,its a custom one
would choose engine coverage
which includes
cylinder block..heads,,all internally lubricated engine parts,,manifolds,,timing gears,,timing gear chain-belt,,timing gear cover,,flywheel,,oil pump and housing,,water pump,,harmonic balancer,,ohc carries and covers,,valve covers oil pan engine mounts,,turbo charger supercharger housing internal parts valves,,intercooler..with this coverage 100 deductible...
as well they have another coverage cooling and fuel which has fuel pump..which i hear goes on this vehicle
as well another coverage is seals and gaskets
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warranty wise,,,im guessing for sure engine part coverage

wife would only drive approx 10000 kms a year
as well we have a 2011 bmw 323i..bought as well used , and purchased after market warranty and never did use it and that has 120,000 kms on it...

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I'm confused: your title says 323i (which didn't exist that year for this market), but it appears you're curious about a 335i. Have you already bought the 335i, or are you asking for input on your decision?

Your 323i has only 12,000 kms on it? It's barely been driven!

N52 and N55 are completely different beasts. With such low mileage on your 323, it will come as a surprise to no one that you didn't need your warranty coverage. Even if you have 120,000 kms on it (which seems much more likely), it's not totally surprising that you haven't needed the warranty. As for the 335i: if you're bringing it to the dealership for one of the more "major" repairs, your bill could easily top $3k.

Lots of good info here on what to watch out for when buying. Unclear whether you've already purchased. Check out the sticky at the top of this forum and CAREFULLY compare the common failure items to what is covered under the warranty. To me, it seems worth it, but others who actually own this model may know better.

Good luck!
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I'm confused: your title says 323i (which didn't exist that year for this market), but it appears you're curious about a 335i. Have you already bought the 335i, or are you asking for input on your decision?

Your 323i has only 12,000 kms on it? It's barely been driven!

N52 and N55 are completely different beasts. With such low mileage on your 323, it will come as a surprise to no one that you didn't need your warranty coverage. Even if you have 120,000 kms on it (which seems much more likely), it's not totally surprising that you haven't needed the warranty. As for the 335i: if you're bringing it to the dealership for one of the more "major" repairs, your bill could easily top $3k.

Lots of good info here on what to watch out for when buying. Unclear whether you've already purchased. Check out the sticky at the top of this forum and CAREFULLY compare the common failure items to what is covered under the warranty. To me, it seems worth it, but others who actually own this model may know better.

Good luck!
no its not f30...2013 bmw 335i sport package with n55 last generation..coming from a 2002 volvo s40 and 2002 ford escape with both have approx 220000 kms on it..on both cars for engine work...all was changed was sparkplugs and coils,,,not sure what wifey is thinking of getting the 2013 335i convertible...she already has the 2011 bmw 323i 140000 kms on it and nothing has gone wrong with that for now...she plans on just driving the convertible from may to novemebr and the other bmw in the winter...so basically about 8000 kms a year on 335i
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no its not f30...2013 bmw 335i sport package with n55 last generation..coming from a 2002 volvo s40 and 2002 ford escape with both have approx 220000 kms on it..on both cars for engine work...all was changed was sparkplugs and coils,,,not sure what wifey is thinking of getting the 2013 335i convertible...she already has the 2011 bmw 323i 140000 kms on it and nothing has gone wrong with that for now...she plans on just driving the convertible from may to novemebr and the other bmw in the winter...so basically about 8000 kms a year on 335i
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I'm familiar with these models and production years and know it's not an F30, but your posts are quite confusing/contradictory... Your title says "323i convertible," the post says it's currently at 12,000 kms, now it's 140,000 kms, etc... Not a big deal, but as I currently understand it, she's considering buying a 2013 335i convertible.

You haven't mentioned many key details: What's the price? How many owners? Accident free? Does it come with service records? What's been replaced so far? How long are you planning to keep it for?

I'd suggest checking out this thread. It has a ton of excellent information in it for prospective buyers such as yourself, and outlines in great detail what to look for when buying an E90.

In the end, it (almost) always comes down to money. How much is N55 power worth to you? If a 328 convertible would suffice, then you'd be wise to consider that instead. By no means are they maintenance-free, there's just a lot less to go wrong.

If the warranty you mentioned is truly as comprehensive as it sounds, then it sounds like a no-brainer. Assuming everything else checks out (and there's a lot of checking out left to do), then worst case you buy the car and keep it until the warranty is up. Just to be conservative, let's say the true cost of the warranty (including deductibles paid) amounts to ~$1500/year over three years. That's a relative bargain for N55 ownership.

Provide some additional info and check out the thread I linked to. After you've done that, I'm sure other more knowledgeable members will chip their thoughts in.

Good luck!
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So was that a typo on your thread title?

N55 should be more reliable than the n54. So that's a plus.

Personally I don't see the point of owning two e90... as wonderful these cars might be. Unless you need back seats there are alot of compelling funner/prettier dedicated drop tops than a cabriolet. A 2nd gen Z4 3.0si comes to mind.
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was a typo,,tried to edit title,,did not allow,,,we have a son so there needs to be a backseat
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So was that a typo on your thread title?

N55 should be more reliable than the n54. So that's a plus.

Personally I don't see the point of owning two e90... as wonderful these cars might be. Unless you need back seats there are alot of compelling funner/prettier dedicated drop tops than a cabriolet. A 2nd gen Z4 3.0si comes to mind.
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thinking of getting warranty on the 2013 bmw 335i convertible has 75000 kms

for 3000 dollars for 4 years-80,000kms


https://home.firstcanadian.ca/wp-conten ... verage.pdf
its with fcpp


- engine which includes waterpump
-transmission
front-rear wheel drive
cooling and fuel which includes fuel pump
steering
front suspension
brakes
electrical
heater and factory installed airconditioner
seals and gaskets
from reading the forum and the parts that go wrong for 2013 335i bmw 75000 kms..i think should get this 3rd party warranty..mind you its 100 deductable
and its 2500 max per reapir or if i want to pay a bit more , than 5000 max per repair might you the 4 yr will be more money
- would you go for 2500 or 5000
as mentione dbefore we had 3rd party 4 year with our 2011 bmw 323i,,never had to use the warranty
but this bmw is different story correct
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Just get her an E93 328i. No reason for your wife to have a N54 over a N52, frankly. Way less issues.
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N52 has flaws but is MUCH more reliable for daily driving. MUCH more.
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My opinion on the coverage is that it’s worth it, but I agree that N52 should be more than sufficient.

Hard to say whether $2500 or $5000 per-repair limit is more appropriate. Many of the bigger jobs would absolutely exceed $2500, so if you really want the car, my opinion is to go with higher amount. It’s a gamble either way. If she barely drives it, then maybe you’ll never need the coverage.

Honestly though, at this point it’s less about what the warranty covers and more about all the questions in my post above. Cost of car, maintenance history, etc etc.

It’s seeming like you’re putting the cart in front of the horse here. Nothing wrong with exploring warranty options, but it makes more sense to ensure everything else checks out first.
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Just get her an E93 328i. No reason for your wife to have a N54 over a N52, frankly. Way less issues.
Listen to this dude with the beanie hat!
Last thing you want is to have your wife with your experience getting stranded, car won't start, christmas dashboard lights, weird smoke, weird fluid dripping, no-power, CEL flashing situations ..... all these are the calling cards of the 335i.

Don't believe, just scroll through the forum topics here.
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Listen to this dude with the beanie hat!
Last thing you want is to have your wife with your experience getting stranded, car won't start, christmas dashboard lights, weird smoke, weird fluid dripping, no-power, CEL flashing situations ..... all these are the calling cards of the 335i.

Don't believe, just scroll through the forum topics here.
I can't tell if you're being facetious or not.
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As far as the warranty goes i would base it off of how well you think the car was taken care of. I would rather have a car with 200k miles that was taken care of, then a car with 100k miles that was neglected. Also depends on how mechanically inclined you are.
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IMHO, the fears of 335i are overstated, especially when talking about a 2013 with newer parts for HPFP, n55 turbo itself is solid, as are the Bosch injectors. E90s in general will have issues around the cooling system (exp tank, pump/thermo, radiator neck, etc), gaskets (OFH, VC, OPG), less so for FRM, valvetronic motor/senssor, alternator, starter, AC compressors, PS pump, shredded belts, etc. that people post about on this forum. Some have all of them and others none.

Turbo specific at risk to be an issue ... HPFP (really direct injection related), more often spark plug/coil replacement, diverter valve, boost solenoid, plastic charge pipe. In the grand scheme of things, it's not that much difference especially if you enjoy the extra power.

I'm almost 4 years into DDing my '11 N55 355 (first BMW). I bought it at about 182k km and now have about 275k km and it's never left me stranded, although I did have to limp home with a flashing SES when my HPFP failed. Oddly enough, other than OFHG (x2), my gaskets really haven't been bad and the water pump & thermo have been fine (replaced by PO). I did end up changing the VCG for other reasons though and my OPG started to leak slightly 6 mo ago or so. I've made all repairs & maintenance and likely a good move for you to get the warranty if that's not your thing. Sorry can't help you on which repair-max might be best.
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