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      08-22-2019, 12:46 PM   #1
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Ceramic Brake Option.

I know it’s an option on the M5. Is it standard on the comp ?
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no its an option there as well.
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Thanks for the quick reply.

Are the calipers blue on the comp with regular brakes mike the M brakes for gold like the ceramics?

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no its an option there as well.
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Calipers are blue on the comp. Gold is only on CCBs, which are a $8500 option (in the US). You can see all of this yourself if you go to the configurator on BMW's site.
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Not fond of the gold myself
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Not fond of the gold myself
I like it, but I'm biased since I have it.
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FWIW I was not a fan at first but now that I have had them for 6 months I would hate to go back. The bite and feel is amazing vs steels and the lack of brake dust is awesome!
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I have ceramic's on another vehicle and love the bite and lack of brake dust. I store it for the winter but if I take is out on a nice winter day, the brakes don't work well for the first stop or 2 until they get some heat in them.

Are the BMW ceramics the same?

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FWIW I was not a fan at first but now that I have had them for 6 months I would hate to go back. The bite and feel is amazing vs steels and the lack of brake dust is awesome!
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I have ceramic's on another vehicle and love the bite and lack of brake dust. I store it for the winter but if I take is out on a nice winter day, the brakes don't work well for the first stop or 2 until they get some heat in them.

Are the BMW ceramics the same?
Nah, even the previous generation didn’t need to be warmed up at all (I get there is a optimal temp for them, they do bite harder as they heat up, but cold they are certainly safe and passable for a street car). The only thing I notice is if you spray a lot of water/wheel cleaner on them, they will moan and groan trying to hold the car on a steep slope, until you use them a couple times. Until they are completely dry they don’t work well. So if they are cold and wet they will make weird noises. Going any speed and dragging them a bit sorts it out in seconds. But, just cold, like in the morning, they work great, no issues. And mine are basically silent compared to my previous gen m5 or acr with racing pads.
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I don't think I could go back to steels...
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I'm never going back to Steel. The bite is too good, especially on a car of this weight. And who are we kidding.... zero brake dust is worth the 8500
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I have ceramic's on another vehicle and love the bite and lack of brake dust. I store it for the winter but if I take is out on a nice winter day, the brakes don't work well for the first stop or 2 until they get some heat in them.

Are the BMW ceramics the same?

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FWIW I was not a fan at first but now that I have had them for 6 months I would hate to go back. The bite and feel is amazing vs steels and the lack of brake dust is awesome!
Yup. Washed my car yesterday pulled it into the garage and almost ended up in my living room! Only when wet or very cold the first pump of the brakes is scary. After that they are amazing.
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What are the expected maintenance costs for the carbon brakes? Paying $8500 you'd think they would outlive the motor, lol.
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What are the expected maintenance costs for the carbon brakes? Paying $8500 you'd think they would outlive the motor, lol.
They can, on a daily.
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Just don’t ever take them on a track, or you will need to replace them. If all you ever do is street driving, they should last 100k miles. One track day will reduce the life of them significantly. Replacing pads and rotors will be more than $8500.
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Planning on leasing and daily driving so CCB seems the way I will go.
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Just don’t ever take them on a track, or you will need to replace them. If all you ever do is street driving, they should last 100k miles. One track day will reduce the life of them significantly. Replacing pads and rotors will be more than $8500.
Yes. I just did a track day this past Saturday with a guy who optioned his car with the CCBs. He does 8 - 12 track days per year and said his CCBs were shot after 4,000 miles. Here's the painful part as SpeedyDad noted - $4,000 per corner to replace! After some back-and-forth with his dealership, BMW AG agreed to a one-time complementary replacement. At 12,000 miles they were shot again so he ordered steel discs and pads and did the work himself to convert the brakes.
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If you will track the car, buy the steel brakes. However, I think very few people actually track their own M5. If you daily drive it and don't track it, the CCBs are substantially better than steel in every single way. They bite hard when cold, wet, or whenever with no dust.
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Even GT3 owners who track their car immediately replace CCB after buying pre-owned cars.

Personally, I like to take my M5 to the track every once in a while, so I went with steel, which are amazing in their own right, aside from the dust. I can do four 20 min sessions on track with very little fade. The tires take a beating though.
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Personally, I like to take my M5 to the track every once in a while, so I went with steel, which are amazing in their own right, aside from the dust. I can do four 20 min sessions on track with very little fade. The tires take a beating though.
+1. Have had zero issue with fade doing HPDE's with four 20 minute run sessions.
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one of the best options I got on my car and I don't even track it
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one of the best options I got on my car and I don't even track it
And you shouldn’t unless you like spending $16k on brakes every 3 track days.
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