BMW M2CS Review

AUSf22 · 07-31-2020, 07:26 AM

This is quite a good in depth review of the new M2CS by Joe Achilles

rwemersonrw · 07-31-2020, 09:43 AM

That was really cool thanks for sharing.

medphysdave · 07-31-2020, 09:49 AM

I agreed with his assessment. Don't by the CS as a track tool. The C is a better platform to start with. Buy it for the added creature comforts that make it a better all around DD with some track days. He didn't help the DCT/manual question, but he personally has a 6mt. He did reignite the CCB for me though.

ESB · 07-31-2020, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by medphysdave

I agreed with his assessment. Don't by the CS as a track tool. The C is a better platform to start with. Buy it for the added creature comforts that make it a better all around DD with some track days. He didn't help the DCT/manual question, but he personally has a 6mt. He did reignite the CCB for me though.

Yeah it's a bit of a surprising conclusion for a car that removed the armrest though haha

JustChris · 07-31-2020, 10:53 AM

Watching now. Been looking forward to this one for some time.

out for all the RIGHT reasons this time.

SW19 · 07-31-2020, 11:12 AM

Seems like most of these CS reviews are very subjective by the reviewer.Of course the performance specs of the vehicles are very close.The CS IMO is a superior vehicle just for the improved exterior and interior upgrades.Anyone who wants one and can afford it should get it.

akkando · 07-31-2020, 12:38 PM

I think these performance comparisons on different tires are pointless really.

JustChris · 07-31-2020, 12:43 PM

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I think these performance comparisons on different tires are pointless really.

Agree and Joe does state that, throw some Cup 2s on the M2C and it's very close.

medphysdave · 07-31-2020, 01:43 PM

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Agree and Joe does state that, throw some Cup 2s on the M2C and it's very close.

Yes, he mentioned he thought it would cut the time difference in half.

Unfortunately, all reviews are going to tumble to the "Is it worth $25k more than the M2C"? instead of focus on how stellar the car is. If we leave out the education on finances there is a noticeable improvement between the two models. I'm pretty sure M2CS buyers aren't really on the fence about which direction they will go. I'd like to read more about how the CCB impacts driving characteristics.

Romo · 07-31-2020, 02:00 PM

Nice review.

Like that the car on the road is more compliant, that is the only way I'll use it, collecting it tommorow

Coming from the OG M2 N55, this was the only logical step to me.

718 GT4 PDK on order, wil collect that car spring next year.

JustChris · 07-31-2020, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Romo

Nice review.
Like that the car on the road is more compliant, that is the only way I'll use it, collecting it tommorow

Coming from the OG M2 N55, this was the only logical step to me.
718 GT4 PDK on order, wil collect that car spring next year.

Awesome!!

ried · 07-31-2020, 03:25 PM

TL;DR

A tiny incremental improvement in performance that requires a long track to actually measure. But the CS "feels more planted," the CCBs are awesome, and the CS accessory bits are cool.

For a lot of money.

M2CS · 07-31-2020, 03:36 PM

I'm sure the Competition is the better "value" than the CS; however, even with the extra $20k for the CS... it may not end up being more expensive to own. If the CS's depreciation curve isn't as steep as the M2C, CS owners may end up spending less money depending on how long they keep the car. Just depends on the demand and how many end up being produced.

The CS review we've all been waiting for.... lol

JustChris · 07-31-2020, 03:55 PM

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The CS review we've all been waiting for.... lol

Haha Bert

Little Legend.
That revving!

Davil · 08-27-2020, 06:01 AM

Just watched this again.

Didn't pick up on the point before that it has much less burbles. That is fantastic news as they are sort of embarrassing in the M2C unless you are 12.

Also I love a thicker wheel. Joe has big palms with tiny sausage fingers. Mine are like something off an alien. So that's another plus for me.

Finally. That colour is so, so good on the M2 body. It does something to the lines of the car that makes the whole design look more cohesive.

medphysdave · 08-27-2020, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Davil

Just watched this again.

Didn't pick up on the point before that it has much less burbles. That is fantastic news as they are sort of embarrassing in the M2C unless you are 12.

Also I love a thicker wheel. Joe has big palms with tiny sausage fingers. Mine are like something off an alien. So that's another plus for me.

Finally. That colour is so, so good on the M2 body. It does something to the lines of the car that makes the whole design look more cohesive.

I question if the wheel will "break in" over time and squish a bit where the drive typically holds the wheel making the diameter less.

VisualEcho · 08-27-2020, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Davil

Didn't pick up on the point before that it has much less burbles. That is fantastic news as they are sort of embarrassing in the M2C unless you are 12.

Your opinion, and you're in the minority. I'd say if you think everyone not driving your car really cares, you're the one that's 12. Get over yourself. You're one voice, and obviously in the minority.

Acetech · 08-27-2020, 09:09 AM

I guess I'm in that tiny minority of gear heads that don't like fake shit.
Normal amounts or overrun pop that high performance engines have made since the early days is pleasing but the 4th of July firecracker show that is the standard with M2c only made much worse by aftermarket exhausts is kinda whack.
And it's dead going forward just so ya know, BMW and other manufacturers are toning way down going forward. 2020 X3m40 major reductions in silly noise 2021 8 series the same, not sure if 2021 M2c will get the reduction but it's coming for all models eventually.

AUSf22 · 08-29-2020, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Davil

Just watched this again.

Didn't pick up on the point before that it has much less burbles. That is fantastic news as they are sort of embarrassing in the M2C unless you are 12.

Also I love a thicker wheel. Joe has big palms with tiny sausage fingers. Mine are like something off an alien. So that's another plus for me.

Finally. That colour is so, so good on the M2 body. It does something to the lines of the car that makes the whole design look more cohesive.

Should probably note that the UK M2CS has the OPF filter, I would hazard a guess that muffles a lot of the burbles also.

Your Aussie m2cs may still burble a lot !

Davil · 08-30-2020, 12:30 AM

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Should probably note that the UK M2CS has the OPF filter, I would hazard a guess that muffles a lot of the burbles also.

Your Aussie m2cs may still burble a lot !

Hope not.

I hardly ever use Sport Plus in my M2C other than blasting around on back roads. Then again, that's probably the intended use after all.

M2CS · 09-03-2020, 01:18 PM

NYNick · 05-26-2021, 11:12 AM

Porsche deletes stuff and charges more to have it missing. See Clubsport models.
BMW shoulda done the same with a Clubsport CS.

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medphysdave Brigadier General 4551 Rep 4,658 Posts Drives: M2 CS \| 85 of 592 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (3)	I agreed with his assessment. Don't by the CS as a track tool. The C is a better platform to start with. Buy it for the added creature comforts that make it a better all around DD with some track days. He didn't help the DCT/manual question, but he personally has a 6mt. He did reignite the CCB for me though.
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SW19 Colonel 2453 Rep 2,706 Posts Drives: 2016 Alpine White M2 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Wimbledon iTrader: (0)	Seems like most of these CS reviews are very subjective by the reviewer.Of course the performance specs of the vehicles are very close.The CS IMO is a superior vehicle just for the improved exterior and interior upgrades.Anyone who wants one and can afford it should get it.
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Romo Lieutenant Colonel 1748 Rep 1,666 Posts Drives: GR Yaris GT4RS Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Netherlands iTrader: (0)	Nice review. Like that the car on the road is more compliant, that is the only way I'll use it, collecting it tommorow Coming from the OG M2 N55, this was the only logical step to me. 718 GT4 PDK on order, wil collect that car spring next year. Last edited by Romo; 07-31-2020 at 02:11 PM..
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ried Captain 792 Rep 817 Posts Drives: F31, F80 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: SoCal iTrader: (2)	TL;DR A tiny incremental improvement in performance that requires a long track to actually measure. But the CS "feels more planted," the CCBs are awesome, and the CS accessory bits are cool. For a lot of money.
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