What options/features are not available for the base model?

backslashv · 03-01-2021, 10:58 AM

What are all the features you lose with the MT? I know dynamic cruise control is one. Remote start is another.

Ilyam5 · 03-01-2021, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by backslashv

What are all the features you lose with the MT? I know dynamic cruise control is one. Remote start is another.

After seeing the car in person – I’m more disappointed and more confused in the choice to go manual M3
Manual or auto is a good debate in everyone’s mind now and not only because it’s 2021. It’s the first time they take away HP and torque and don’ t have extra charge for DCT/auto

One buying this car has to go through the same thought process- for the same 80 K if I want the manual I have to forego the following:
Usual Auto advantages:
- Ability for everyone in the family to drive it
- Ease of traffic driving
- Nothing to brake/wear out in the manual box – no burnt clutches
- No money shift risks /blown engines
- 6 gears vs 8 gears thus less fuel economy
- Taller gears thus less flexibility in tight tracks
- Faster shift speed for auto
Convenience/Performance Auto features not available in manual
- Remote Start
- Launch control
- Autonomous driving
- Lane keep assist/lane change assist
- Parking assist
- Self-parking
More so – Possibility of future software/feature updates
- Based on current regulations – better full self-driving in traffic
- Summoning the car to roll to you
- Remote parking
Biggest bummer
- Less power
- Less torque
- No design/R&D put into new gearbox/clutch thus killing the possibility of safely tuning existing engine with gearbox/clutch limitations
- - No AWD option with manual

(I know one can persuade themselves those are not important features, but the possibility of having them is still there)
After all of the above – I’m still thinking of the manual option for the track use – since for that application it is still the simplest and most reliable tech that’s proven to work. Plus some of the sentimental advantages
- More involvement/ connection to the car
- More fun
- Bragging rights for some –being one of the few who can still drive that
- Not losing skills that one worked on for years – hill/toe and left foot work
- Pulling at straws here, anything else?
But for the rest of the time using the car – the list keeps growing and it’s not towards manual favor – of course the looks of the car do not help either.
So I keep asking myself – why do I need to persuade myself to be excited about an 80K car. After $1000+ a month payments I have to talk myself into liking it and persuade people who ask about it - that looks don’t matter and less performance is still more fun.

mkoesel · 03-01-2021, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by backslashv

What are all the features you lose with the MT? I know dynamic cruise control is one. Remote start is another.

When I compared the two back in October, this is what I found:

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...2#post26764442

mcjohnsonsg · 03-01-2021, 03:23 PM

Ilyam5 - good list.

Your point about all family members being able to drive auto is important. Personally I prefer a manual. Have driven one for 29 years before getting my current M340xdrive, and while I love my current car it has confirmed that manuals are more fun. However, when I get an M3 I will (unfortunately) occasionally need to have my wife drive it, and she can't drive stick. That and the lower power pushes me to the M3Comp with auto. I know I could mod a manual M3 to get even more power and torque than the Comp, but I lease so I won't do that. I'm approaching 50yrs, and buying two autos in a row seems to confirm that I am getting old!

Scorp!on · 03-01-2021, 05:30 PM