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DCT 😍😍😍 the F82 weight and DCT gave it an edge over G82. that roll from comfort represents real life daily drive. I have read over the internet that ZF is slow but that is huge difference from the DCT, the ZF kick down (down shift) gear box is slow, and manual too. I guess the F82 price just went up after that video
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04-24-2021, 05:29 AM | #4 |
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I must say the old M4 looks gorgeous in that color.
12.0 on a 1/4 mile must also be one of the better times ever achieved by F80/82 Comp. Was really surprised the difference to G82 being only 0,1 seconds. Its a shame really that the G80/82 doesn't have the DCT but this has been said on this forum probably quite many times..... |
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04-24-2021, 06:18 AM | #5 |
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Hm, we have the old M4C doing one of the best 1/4 mile times I have ever seen for that car on a damp surface, then it is destroying the new M4C from the roll in D mode, and is barely slower in gear acceleration?!
I have never seen a stock M4C defeating the C63S in a roll race, but this old M4C certainly would by looking at this video: Here is another video with the old M4C racing against the C63S and RS5: Judging by this, the old, green M4C is significantly faster than the old black M4C! Something is not right here, other than the fact that the old green M4 looks modded all around |
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Low 12 for the the F8X is not uncommon. Further we dont know what tires this particular car has. Just replacing the crappy stock PSS with PS4S will make a significant difference when launching the car. On the other hand, 11.9 is far from the best we’ve seen from the G8X.
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04-24-2021, 08:34 AM | #9 |
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Even if there is some possible deceit going on regarding mods, it just goes to show that these cars are pretty damn close at least in straightline performance.
Most of the time, the G8X will have the edge. All of the time, it's going to be a drivers race. |
04-24-2021, 10:03 AM | #10 |
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LOL, @ those saying the race was close so something must be wrong! What would be gained by trying to deceive by not disclosing mods? The Joe Achilles F80 v. G80 track battle was also a very close race, hence there's already precedent. The G80 was pulling ahead each time at the end and would win every race if the track was long enough due to it's 60 hp advantage.
Given (as expected) how the AWD M440i got off the line, the G8x AWD is going to be a beast and blow the F8x RWD out the door. The braking win by the F80 was probably helped by it's much lighter weight. |
04-24-2021, 10:48 AM | #11 |
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Unless they made ZCP M4s in 2015, it’s a fact that the F82 is not a ZCP and not running at stock power. Look it up for yourself; plate is “D3 RAJ”.
https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/?locale=en No idea why the F82 owner misled the Carwow folks about his car. |
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04-24-2021, 11:52 AM | #14 |
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Here’s my hot take:
- F82 looks tuned so need to know more - doubt it’s a stage 1, seems like either a ZCP or possibly a CS level tune based on the results. G8X still wins in the end, which I don’t think will be the case vs a typical stage 1 F8X (480-500hp). Not only did G8X win, it won from behind. - Slower kickdown + higher boost threshold + more turbo lag is likely the reason why on a roll in comfort, the G8X took a while to switch on (I’d expect to see a similar initial jump from a stock F8X) LBbluem2 this is what I’m talking about regarding boost threshold + turbo lag in your other thread. S55 gets the jump but the top end of S58 reels it in - I think this corroborates your experience with both S55 & S58 in a daily context
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04-24-2021, 12:08 PM | #15 |
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Here's his IG. For what it's worth, he uses hashtag "500bhpclub". There's a post on FB that references his Stage 1, but it's in a private group and not linkable.
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04-24-2021, 12:14 PM | #16 |
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Those are not expected results for a true stock ZCP, especially on damp pavement.
That F82 is not a ZCP; it’s a power-modded base 425hp car. Interesting video, but as far as the old M4 is concerned, these results are not valid. Look it up for yourself; plate is “D3 RAJ”. https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/?locale=en Here's the VIN for you to decode if you're still not 100% sure. WBS3R92030K342575 Here's his IG. For what it's worth, he uses hashtag "500bhpclub". There's a post on FB that references his Stage 1, but it's in a private group and not linkable. https://www.instagram.com/greenmeaney/?hl=en No idea why the F82 owner misled the Carwow folks about his car. |
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04-24-2021, 12:21 PM | #18 | |
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To be objective, he could have gone back to stock.
Look the quarter mile times in the video, he did 12 secs, which is in line with stock F80s. Stage 1s hit 11.5-11.8s. The G8x time was also close to what BMW quotes. So its stock vs. stock Quote:
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04-24-2021, 12:29 PM | #19 |
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Up to you whether you want to grant the F82 owner the benefit of the doubt. But he missed on critical details and my own eyes say otherwise to this being a stock tune.
G8x Comp is slightly faster than a Stage 1 F8x, and that’s what we see here. The G8x also underperformed its 1/4 mile time by almost half a second, likely due to the wet pavement. |
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Same car but 7 months ago. Similar results from a roll, from a dig it looks like they couldn’t launch it very well as it’s half a second slower in this vid. Having said that, 12.0 seconds seems about right for the 1/4 mile in the original vid - the G82 seems to be running that a little slow as CanAutM3 said
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Its objective. Stage 1s would walk a G8x. Evolve did some dynos comparing it. It's numbers based. The video confirms that the F8x was detuned back to stock.
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