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      06-02-2008, 01:54 AM   #1
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Installed KWV2

Full review from Horst at VR who installed it for me:
http://www.vrperformance.com/mt/2008..._1_1.html#more

My Thoughts: I am very thankful to Ron************ for the KWv2 and to Eric and Horst at VR performance in MI for installation. Ron at **********s has been awesome in getting the kw's so quickly and for the ultrafast shipping. Ron is a pleasure to deal with. Eric and Horst who installed it for me were awesome and meticulous. It took roughly about 5hrs and we chatted about Motons to racing. How do I feel about it? Horst from VR who installed mine had an m3 race car in which he gave me a ride. My car gave me a similar feeling in handling. I didn't go for a huge drop since I don't want it for the looks and I am allowing the springs to settle before i go for a further drop and the rebound compression is just set at 30% stiffer.My suspension now feels like a envelope, the feeling is more like it hugs the road closely and it is not much harsher than the original sport suspension.
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      06-02-2008, 01:58 AM   #2
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      06-02-2008, 02:03 AM   #3
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I will wait for 200 miles till the springs settle and will go back for further lowering and adjust the rebound and will also get an alignment done.
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      06-02-2008, 02:35 AM   #4
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Fantastic! I would like to see detailed pics of your mud guards.
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Looks great! Is it just me or is negative rear camber much more abundant after the install??

Again, first dibs on a ride-along!
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      06-02-2008, 08:48 AM   #6
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Looks great! Is it just me or is negative rear camber much more abundant after the install??

Again, first dibs on a ride-along!
AFAIK the camber and toe hasn't been altered. However I'll get it checked on my next visit. U r always welcome for the ride. Looking forward to meeting you soon.
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      06-02-2008, 09:11 AM   #7
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AFAIK the camber and toe hasn't been altered. However I'll get it checked on my next visit. U r always welcome for the ride. Looking forward to meeting you soon.
I could just be seeing things, but your second-to-last pic looks as-if there's some additional camber. I know that stock the car runs somewhere around -1.5 degrees in the rear; however, that pic makes it look a bit more aggressive.

I know we're talking apples and oranges here, but when I put coils on my Subaru, I went from something like -.5 degrees to over -3 degrees. I sold the car a short while after putting the coils on, but if I wanted to "fix" this I would have needed to add rear camber bolts.

Also, I'm not sure what you're up to this weekend, but if my car shows up during this week sometime I plan on attending the BMW meet in Birmingham Saturday morning (I believe it's from 8-10 a.m.) - if you don't have plans you should show!

EDIT: By the way, the stance on your car looks awesome. In some other pics I've seen with the 1er lowered the cars looked WAY too low, but this looks great... There are too many local guys modding their cars already - this is surely going to get me divorced!
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      06-02-2008, 09:12 AM   #8
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AFAIK the camber and toe hasn't been altered. However I'll get it checked on my next visit. U r always welcome for the ride. Looking forward to meeting you soon.

Looking good. :thumbup:

If the car ended up lower than it was stock, then negative camber did increase -- that's just a BMW suspension trait. Toe probably also changed. Everything that I've heard and read about the KW's indicate that the springs will settle and the car will drop some more.

I'll be getting the same suspension installed later this week and was curious as to how many "clicks' off of full hard you set the rebound to get your ~30% stiffer feeling? Also, did you set the height at the highest (i.e., the minimum drop) allowed by the KW's?

Thanks in advance for you input.
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      06-02-2008, 11:15 AM   #9
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Has it helped remove body roll?
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      06-02-2008, 11:22 AM   #10
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Looks good right now.
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      06-02-2008, 02:07 PM   #11
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Is it me or are will those things lower the car a little bit?
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      06-02-2008, 02:19 PM   #12
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Is it me or are will those things lower the car a little bit?
Yes, they lower the car a minimum of ~20 mm and a maximum of ~50mm -- you decide the exact amount of "lowering" from stock when you set the spring perch position.
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      06-02-2008, 02:35 PM   #13
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Ahh ok so since he didn't lower is its set at ~20mm right?
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      06-02-2008, 04:46 PM   #14
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coolguy, if it's not too much to ask, the next time its up on a lift would you take a pic of the OE wheel/tire clearance from the strut/spring, please? And where is the adjustment point on the front and rear struts/shocks, top or bottom?
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      06-02-2008, 07:03 PM   #15
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Ahh ok so since he didn't lower is its set at ~20mm right?
Not clear...we need input for coolguy. :wink:

If the shop set his KW's at their highest setting, it would result in an approximate drop of 20 mm from stock.
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......And where is the adjustment point on the front and rear struts/shocks, top or bottom?
Rebound adjustment is located on the top (front and rear) of the strut/shock.
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      06-03-2008, 03:23 PM   #17
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Sorry guys. Couldn't find time with my 6month Jr:biggrin:. I went for 1/2 inch drop on all sides. when the springs settle after 200 miles, i might go for 1 inch in total on all sides and get alignment. I won't be going tracking soon. So I guess i won't be going for corner balancing now.

I haven't asked to alter the toe n camber more than it comes with the drop. My understeer is almost gone. Regarding the drop, KW says the range of height adjust ability on the Fronts is 1.4 - 2.5 inches and the rears are a 1.4 - 2.1 inch drop though I am not 100% sure on it. Regarding the rebound KW reco's for a start on fronts 1,25 turns open +/-0.25 turns
on the rears 1,0 turns open +/- 0.25 turns. I went with Eric who is the susp guy for 30% rebound. I'll test drive more n see if it is comfortable or if i shud go for more. The adjustment is all of more a trial n error thing. Rebound adjustment is from the top n not the bottom. But the one disadv with the adjustments is I can't sneak in my hand and have to remove the whole wheel.

I feel like going in a gokart on the road now
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      06-04-2008, 07:55 AM   #18
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how much did that set cost you? if you dont mind me asking.
Looks fantastic!!
And the rotors are from? and the size?
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Nice job, the drop looks perfect to me! However I have a question...

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I went for 1/2 inch drop on all sides.
How can you drop 0.5 inches (perfect for a daily driver, as per the BMW performance suspension), when you say that...

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Regarding the drop, KW says the range of height adjust ability on the Fronts is 1.4 - 2.5 inches and the rears are a 1.4 - 2.1 inch drop though I am not 100% sure on it.
i.e. KW min is 1.4 inches (too much for me)?

Thanks for clarifying if possible!
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      06-04-2008, 01:06 PM   #20
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how much did that set cost you? if you dont mind me asking.
Looks fantastic!!
And the rotors are from? and the size?
No probs. V2's from **********s.com. Rotors from Dan at united bmw. Installation: 5hrs. upwards of 2k.
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Nice job, the drop looks perfect to me! However I have a question...



How can you drop 0.5 inches (perfect for a daily driver, as per the BMW performance suspension), when you say that...



i.e. KW min is 1.4 inches (too much for me)?

Thanks for clarifying if possible!
The kw booklet doesn't say anything. Those are the values given by my vendor. But my susp guy said he could drop it by 0.5 inch and did it. finally I may go for for 1inch in total after the springs settle. in short u can do the min drop of 0.5-0.75 inches.
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      06-04-2008, 02:19 PM   #22
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They look fantastic! Another 1/4" or so after they settle, and they'll be perfecto, IMO. Congrats.
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