[andrew 330i]

~ these are pics of my front rim after a solid 2 weeks of driving... with NO touch-ups/wiping of my rims (rotex dust-free pads):




~ the difference (before & after) wiping 1/2 of the area clean:



----------------------------







info:

"rotex gold" kevlar dust-free pads... no squealing or noise at all...

part numbers: D394 (front) $75.00 / D683 (rear) $70.00

~ same part number as e46 M3.

i purchased them thru: brakeworld.com

[Nikki]

Wow incredible! I would get them in a heartbeat but I'm concerned about warranty issues.

[Gearcraft]

so does it wear out the rotors more?

[aapriadi]

warranty and wear out issues are my main concerns...what do you say andrew? i'd like to get this as well, sick and tired of them brake dust...i dont really care bout my rims already, cleaned them today and its all dirty tomorrow dang

[Asiann]

Originally Posted by Gearcraft

so does it wear out the rotors more?

Wouldn't that depend on how you drive as well. Its a durable item that will nedd replacing when it is time for a new set. That is like saying buying another type of RFT's will cause damage. Rotors will wear and need turning everytime you get your brakes replaced. I have gone longer than 4 years without having to replace my brakes so warranty wouldn't be an issue anyway. Just my 0.2

[ward]

interesting


I wonder how they'd do on the track???

[ZuerstBMW]

Look damn clean to me.

[yaja]

I just sent this thread to my SA and since I am 6 hours ahead of most of you, you all should have an answer on warranty concerns the next time you log on. Unless you are an insomniac and are having trouble falling to sleep. Just count dollar signs like I do!

[nojoedoe]

the stopping power of dust free pads on the track is usually crap
i know someone who had a set on his e36

[shimshimhada]

I like brake dust. No need to paint my wheels gunmetal.

[longtran]

i heard

less dust brake= no good braking
more dust brake = awesome braking

[yaja]

This is the answer from my SA:

It could
lead into a warranty issue. I have called the dealer and asked him
about the pads and was told if your rotors get a damage or if you have any
general issue with your brakes they will have to note that there are no
original pads on and that might cause a warranty issue. Besides that
the white brake pads have been available for many years and the reason
why they are not standard on the cars is that they do not do as well when
you apply brakes. Meaning stopping gets longer and they heat up faster
so they do not as good on fast autobahn or track driving.

Now in my words... "please leave the shit off and clean your wheels"

[andrew 330i]

i have ran dust free pads (dfp) on all my bmws w/o any issues since 1999.

the braking performance is equal to... if not improved. the real improvement is when you get them heated up. some serious stopping power imo. keep in mind this is an improved low dust street pad... not intend for the track (most track guys would use a different more aggressive compound).

as for the rotor question... the wear is the same as the normal oem pads. i had "dfp" on my '01 X5 4.4 sport for 5 years... 75k with no change of pads needed (1/2 pad remaining at 75k).

warranty issues... the dealer told me... if you have a rotor or brake issue... remove the "dfp"... install the oems and bring it in for service as normal. the dealer is not going to notice the change of pads during normal routine servicing... nor care.

my sales manager is well aware of the "dfp" i install. even he is going to put them on his bmw... he can't stand the dust either. i provide him with the vendor & part numbers.

in the mean time... happy cleaning. i will be driving.

cheers!

[andrew 330i]

the dealer wants you to use the soft dusty pads... because they make more money by you having to change the pads regularly. and the dealer will always make you replace the rotors come pad replacement time. can you say big bucks.

the softer the pad (why bmw uses them) the quicker the wear & the less chance of any noise.

some dust free pads do squeal or squeak (eg. hawk hps)... the rotex golds don't.


like any aftermarket item... many are opposed (bmw stockers )... many are for improvement... i like providing proven results.

options & choices are a good thing imo.

[moO moO nEL]

I run Axxis Deluxe Plus on my Z4 front and rear.
Very popular mod in Z4 community around the world.

They are:
Very less brake dust;
No affect on braking performance (same as stock pads)
No warranty issues

I ordered mine from
http://www.zeckhausen.com/axxis_pads.htm

But they only got front fitment for E90 atm.

Later when they got both f&R, and if someone going to setup a GB I will be in.

:rocks:

[Mr. BMW]

Originally Posted by Asiann

Wouldn't that depend on how you drive as well. Its a durable item that will nedd replacing when it is time for a new set. That is like saying buying another type of RFT's will cause damage. Rotors will wear and need turning everytime you get your brakes replaced. I have gone longer than 4 years without having to replace my brakes so warranty wouldn't be an issue anyway. Just my 0.2

BMW never turns their rotors. If they are warped or below spec they replace them.

[FLIP954RR]

I dont mind cleaning my wheels every other day

[bmwexecutive]

The REAL solution to this is WheelWax (www.wheelwax.com). I made a thread on this. Do a search. The stuff works awesome and cleaning each wheel goes from 15 minutes down to about 2 minutes. This way you get the awesome brake performance BMW OEM brakes provide with brake dust gone in 120 seconds.

[hotsand5]

haha, interesting that you said that shimshimshada, I thought the same thing. Next time when they are solid grey from the brake dust, just clean the outside of the rim...not the spokes and it gives a nice effect.

[laperacfo]

High performance brake pads usually creates a lot of brake dust.

If your wheels get dirty, than just clean them.

[NaTuReB0Y]

what's wrong with brake dust........just hose it down with water.

[NoMods]

I say the Columbus people get together for brake pad mod! ahemm...me first