[ubersok]

i've always been curious, but i never found the answer. i check out youtube and it says that the EVO is better in every way than the STI. but my friends keep telling me that the STI is the fastest out of the three : EVO X, WRX STI, and 335i.

all these sources tell me one thing, but then i hear the complete opposite. this doesn't make sense to me at all. haha.

what do you guys think?

[deletedelete]

I dont think its correct to compare the evo and sti to the 335. They are completely different animals. And im pretty sure this has been covered before.....335 wins!

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by ubersok

i've always been curious, but i never found the answer. i check out youtube and it says that the EVO is better in every way than the STI. but my friends keep telling me that the STI is the fastest out of the three : EVO X, WRX STI, and 335i.

all these sources tell me one thing, but then i hear the complete opposite. this doesn't make sense to me at all. haha.

what do you guys think?

Stock for stock the STI is better in everyway except looks when compared to the EVO. The comparo's have already been done.

Dont know where a 335 ranks.

[Turkishexpress]

If you have a professional driving the Sti and the Evo then the Sti will have a slight edge. If you're just an enthusiast and decided to go fast, you will go much faster with an Evo. Evo is easier/cheaper to make power with even with the new 4B11. Evo is easier to work on if you like doing things yourself such as building your motor head etc as well.

[darkphantom]

if you're modding, evo/sti route, otherwise go the 335i route...

[homi mike]

Professional driver or not, no one will pick the STi. It just pushes too much, it understeers by nature.

And like someone have said, you can't compare the evo and sti with the 335i.

[1SL3O3W5i]

The key thing is long run modifications. Turbo upgrades that is. When upgrading all 3 cars the Evo is leaps and bounds easier to modify and make bigger power with 100 times much better top end.

The sti with bigger turbos really runs out of breath earlier. If you do a bigger turbo on stock manifolds on past sti's and evo's the evo wins out without a doubt.

Its like the Evo with a 20g vs a Sti with a green label, mind you this is on stock manifolds, the evo will destroy the Sti. never compare the cars stock since they wont stay stock for long. but I know the sti is easier to launch than the evo.

Also with the Evo X they through the direct injection out the window which makes the car much more easier to tune and create bigger power. If you know one thing about direct injection it does not like big power.

So in the end result I say the Evo X if you are going to eventually upgrade the Turbos.

[iheartsole]

those cars are ugly now. haha only the front of the evo X looks hard

[iAerodynamic]

lol i wouldn't compare rally car to 335i..

besides chicks dig 335 not some jdm car jk

[Nikolas]

I haven't driven the new versions of the STI and EVO, but I have driven the EVO VIII and had an '05 STI. Hands down out of the three for performance the STI was my favorite. The EVO felt too twichy. The STI does tend to oversteer but that was easily fixed with a larger FSB. I miss that car. Both the EVO and STI are set up for pure performance - the 335i is set up for luxury performance and makes it a better daily driver but a lesser track car out of the box.

[slowpoke]

Just get a supra? Pretty much the same price for a good condition supra and a new evo

[1SL3O3W5i]

Originally Posted by slowpoke

Just get a supra? Pretty much the same price for a good condition supra and a new evo

Ehhhh, the maintence on that car is through the roof. Yes you get big power, but it doesnt last long and can not be used as a daily driver once running a certain amount of power and you need to run DR's on that car or u will put your life in danger lol.

[Craig@SupremePower]

apples and oranges

[DenverJayhawk]

Numerous car magazines indicate the Evo is the better car in terms of sheer speed and handling. STi may be quicker in a sprint, but there's more to it than that. Either way you go, both Evo and STi are probably slightly quicker than a 335 in a straight out drag race to 60 and the quarter as well as any type of rally event (but who would bring a 335xi to a rally event anyway?). IMO, those two cars are a little too boy racer-ish for me and the BMW is for an adult.

[Nikolas]

Originally Posted by DenverJayhawk

Numerous car magazines indicate the Evo is the better car in terms of sheer speed and handling. STi may be quicker in a sprint, but there's more to it than that. Either way you go, both Evo and STi are probably slightly quicker than a 335 in a straight out drag race to 60 and the quarter as well as any type of rally event (but who would bring a 335xi to a rally event anyway?). IMO, those two cars are a little too boy racer-ish for me and the BMW is for an adult.

It's not just the straight line performance where they will beat the BMW. Drive them all and you will see first hand the differences as all three are very different from each other.

[balance]

I eat STIs and EVOs for breakfast.

[DenverJayhawk]

Originally Posted by Nikolas

It's not just the straight line performance where they will beat the BMW. Drive them all and you will see first hand the differences as all three are very different from each other.

I haven't driven an Evo, but I've driven a few WRXs. They are fast and rattled like a tin can.

Agreed that those two cars are probably all around better athletes than a 335. But few folks shopping for a 335 will likely cross shop an Evo or STi.

[DenverJayhawk]

Originally Posted by imrickjames132

I eat STIs and EVOs for breakfast.

If you're stock, I don't think so.

[Nikolas]

Originally Posted by imrickjames132

I eat STIs and EVOs for breakfast.

In a straight line!

[Tortfeasor 335xi]

Having owned an 04 STi, driven the Evo and obviously now owning a 335xi I have some experience with these cars. For the average enthusiast right out of the box the EVO will do better on the track, the STi will do better around town. For an experienced driver, the differences between the STi and EVO is how they get the job done, but they both get it done.

The one thing to note about the STi and EVO is how they make power. The STi has a 2.5 liter engine with a small turbo that makes good mid range power, the EVO has a smaller 2.0 liter with a larger turbo so has better top end. The STi tends to understeer on corner entry and then oversteer on exit, the EVO is more neutral. As I said above, its all about what you like better. They both get the job done.

Now comparing these two to a 335xi (since thats what I own). Handling wise, the 335 is a lot less harsh then either of these two cars, but, once you get rid of the crappy run flats and get some real performance rubber on the car it handles just as well as either of these two cars. Though it does tend to understeer from the factory, not a bad thing for a street car though. And as far as power, the 335 is deceptive. While the STi kicked like a mule and the Evo pulled like a freight train the 335 seems almost relaxed in how it accelerates. It also pulls much more strongly at highway speeds (thanks partially to a more aerodynamic profile). This is due to the very linear power delivery of our 3.0 liter with its tiny turbos.

As far as mod for mod, one thing I see holding our cars back is that they are comparatively heavy to the competition. In acceleration our engine's ability to make EVO power with STi torque means that we are more than equal to them in this category. That is until turbos get swapped. So far this seems to be our most limiting factor, that we are limited by space and development to smallish turbos. Once you start swapping turbos on either the STi or EVO they will make more power than we do, and do it with less weight.

[Nikolas]

Originally Posted by DenverJayhawk

I haven't driven an Evo, but I've driven a few WRXs. They are fast and rattled like a tin can.

Agreed that those two cars are probably all around better athletes than a 335. But few folks shopping for a 335 will likely cross shop an Evo or STi.

I had an '03 wrx and an '05 STI. There was a huge difference between the two. Not so sure on the new generation. The STI had the best manual tranny I've seen - far better than the BMW. The BMW felt like slop in comparison. The Subarus are definately not on par as far as comfort. The STI was an awful daily driver.

[DenverJayhawk]

Most reports have STis running 0-60 consistently in the mid 4s. C&D got consistent 4.7 second runs to 60. Most accounts of stock 335s are generally between 4.8 (on a good day) and 5.2 seconds in 0-60.