-- Movie -- Giac flash stage 1 vs Vishnu V3

Big Tom · 08-30-2009, 05:41 PM

Me and my good friend Enrico did some good pulls today.

My car (the camera car) have the following specification:

¤ Vishnu V3.1 stage 3 map

¤ Manual gearbox

¤ Ultimate Racing catless DP's

¤ Milltek catless exhaust

¤ Race Cooling IC

¤ DCI

Enricos car have the following specification:

¤ Giac flash stage 1

¤ Automatic gearbox

¤ AR catless DP's

¤ Bastuck quad exhaust

¤ Helix IC

¤ DCI

¤ RR oil catch can

¤ AR extra oil cooler

¤ Quaife LSD

Both cars are running on pump gas (94 oct)

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enrita · 08-30-2009, 05:43 PM

Very nice Thomas, was lot of fun! you forgot to mention my Helix intercooler ;-) was quite impressed that i was able to keep up with you with only Stage 1! Thought you were going to pull much harder on me! Next run with Stage 2 :-)

FotiosF90M5 · 08-30-2009, 05:44 PM

holy ass whipping batman!

FotiosF90M5 · 08-30-2009, 05:45 PM

The procede car is fast as hell. I wonder how it will be when GIAC has their stage 2.

TMR · 08-30-2009, 05:45 PM

That makes more sense.

Big Tom · 08-30-2009, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrita

you forgot to mention my Helix intercooler ;-)

Oops... Fixed!

enrita · 08-30-2009, 05:47 PM

yeah the extra power pulled straight away on start 4-5 cars but was right behind him till 250 without loosing ground. Quite impressive for only stage 1.

FotiosF90M5 · 08-30-2009, 05:49 PM

yeah, the GIAC flash looks to be the best flash so far in my eyes..

enrita · 08-30-2009, 05:50 PM

the 6000-7000 rpm power is what kept me behind him at higher speed.

FotiosF90M5 · 08-30-2009, 05:51 PM

does the car feel more like a big v8 now as far as power delivery goes? maybe m3 like but with more torque. Also how is the extra rpm's the flash allows? very curious..

NRG · 08-30-2009, 05:51 PM

Wow, the V3 car is def. in a hurry this time. Cool video. Enrita needs S2 ASAP!

enrita · 08-30-2009, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fotios335i

does the car feel more like a big v8 now as far as power delivery goes? maybe m3 like but with more torque. Also how is the extra rpm's the flash allows? very curious..

Still the same car in the way it pulls, just need more boost :-) rev limiter is at 7000 i think or at least thats when it shifts. From 5000 to 7000 pushes equal strong. no power drop.

OpenFlash · 08-30-2009, 06:01 PM

Thanks for taking the time to do these runs guys. This is what I'd expect given dyno and logged data.

FWIW, I'm arranging another comparison right now. GIAC vs. PROcede vs JB3 on the SAME car. Full BT logs and video. Can't get any more objective and fair than that.

Big Tom-- Are you running the new LagFix 2 beta map? Or just the current 7-29 map that is posted on our forum?

Shiv

enrita · 08-30-2009, 06:05 PM

Just FYI this is the run we did some time ago when i had JB3 1.4 Beta (very first rev) map 7:

Kelvin1000 · 08-30-2009, 06:07 PM

We need a Big Tom and Hotrod showdown...

I think Stage 2 GIAC will probably crawl away next time especially in the higher gears (Auto will also help)

FotiosF90M5 · 08-30-2009, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Thanks for taking the time to do these runs guys. This is what I'd expect given dyno and logged data.

FWIW, I'm arranging another comparison right now. GIAC vs. PROcede vs JB3 on the SAME car. Full BT logs and video. Can't get any more objective and fair than that.

Big Tom-- Are you running the new LagFix 2 beta map? Or just the current 7-29 map that is posted on our forum?

Shiv

that looks like a busy day...lol

OpenFlash · 08-30-2009, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fotios335i

that looks like a busy day...lol

It will probably be over two days since the car already has a GIAC flash. Needs to get flashed back to stock and then tested with a PROcede and the newest Jb3 map(s). But we will make sure it does all the runs on the same tank of gas in similar, if not identical, ambient conditions.

Shiv

FotiosF90M5 · 08-30-2009, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

It will probably be over two days since the car already has a GIAC flash. Needs to get flashed back to stock and then tested with a PROcede and the newest Jb3 map(s). But we will make sure it does all the runs on the same tank of gas in similar, if not identical, ambient conditions.

Shiv

awesome...cant wait. btw...lagfix2 6at

Ridge335i · 08-30-2009, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Thanks for taking the time to do these runs guys. This is what I'd expect given dyno and logged data.

FWIW, I'm arranging another comparison right now. GIAC vs. PROcede vs JB3 on the SAME car. Full BT logs and video. Can't get any more objective and fair than that.

Big Tom-- Are you running the new LagFix 2 beta map? Or just the current 7-29 map that is posted on our forum?

Shiv

Hopefully it is not anything like the "comparision" chart you created because that was about as fair and balanced as fox news.

enrita · 08-30-2009, 06:16 PM

as well you should compare with a completely stock car with JB3 map 3, Procede Stage 1 and Giac Stage 1.

gian335 · 08-30-2009, 06:16 PM

thats more like it..... When i saw the other video with mr.5 vs the other procede modded car. It was hard too understand why the GIAC stg.1 would pull ahead so strong. I have raced a fully modded jb3 on map 7 w' 1.4 many times and we are dead even, EVERY RUN.

props to big tom for showing how its done. And what the true capabilities of a stg.3 procede are.

FotiosF90M5 · 08-30-2009, 06:18 PM

a fully modded procede or jb3 car are no joke.

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Big Tom Banned 57 Rep 1,054 Posts Drives: 335i n54 e92 MT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Västerås iTrader: (0)	-- Movie -- Giac flash stage 1 vs Vishnu V3 Me and my good friend Enrico did some good pulls today. My car (the camera car) have the following specification: ¤ Vishnu V3.1 stage 3 map ¤ Manual gearbox ¤ Ultimate Racing catless DP's ¤ Milltek catless exhaust ¤ Race Cooling IC ¤ DCI Enricos car have the following specification: ¤ Giac flash stage 1 ¤ Automatic gearbox ¤ AR catless DP's ¤ Bastuck quad exhaust ¤ Helix IC ¤ DCI ¤ RR oil catch can ¤ AR extra oil cooler ¤ Quaife LSD Both cars are running on pump gas (94 oct) [u2b]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/2MRpdso4H2w&hl=sv&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/2MRpdso4H2w&hl=sv&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/u2b]
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	Very nice Thomas, was lot of fun! you forgot to mention my Helix intercooler ;-) was quite impressed that i was able to keep up with you with only Stage 1! Thought you were going to pull much harder on me! Next run with Stage 2 :-) __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	yeah the extra power pulled straight away on start 4-5 cars but was right behind him till 250 without loosing ground. Quite impressive for only stage 1. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	the 6000-7000 rpm power is what kept me behind him at higher speed. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	Just FYI this is the run we did some time ago when i had JB3 1.4 Beta (very first rev) map 7: __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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Kelvin1000 Major 253 Rep 1,297 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW M2 Competition MT Hoc Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (4)	We need a Big Tom and Hotrod showdown... I think Stage 2 GIAC will probably crawl away next time especially in the higher gears (Auto will also help)
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	as well you should compare with a completely stock car with JB3 map 3, Procede Stage 1 and Giac Stage 1. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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gian335 Major 36 Rep 1,031 Posts Drives: e92 335 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: uknown iTrader: (1)	thats more like it..... When i saw the other video with mr.5 vs the other procede modded car. It was hard too understand why the GIAC stg.1 would pull ahead so strong. I have raced a fully modded jb3 on map 7 w' 1.4 many times and we are dead even, EVERY RUN. props to big tom for showing how its done. And what the true capabilities of a stg.3 procede are.
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