335i (with BMW Peformance Power Kit) vs. CL600

cstavaru · 09-14-2009, 05:02 AM

I accelerated in the back of a CL600 (the new body style) who was accelerating hard on the highway and he couldn't get away, on the contrary I couldn't use full throttle because I was approaching him after about 120mph. Then I passed him but he seemed to slow down a little.

The CL600 has about 500 crank horespower (V12 turbo) vs 335i + Power Kit which has 326 (as per BMW). His weight is 2200kg, mine is 1610.

Was he just playing ?

trixman · 09-14-2009, 05:21 AM

You: 202/ton
Him: 227/ton

I would have thought that car would eat you for breakfast though. If you were around those high speeds I would have thought that's where his V12 would really shine.

enrita · 09-14-2009, 05:23 AM

the CL600 does like 0-62 in 4.8 sec. I guess at high speed it should be much faster than a 335i with only the Power kit.

cstavaru · 09-14-2009, 05:30 AM

Probably he didn't bother...

roadkillrob · 09-14-2009, 06:25 AM

He was probably just driving normally and didn't notice you where there!

cstavaru · 09-14-2009, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by roadkillrob

He was probably just driving normally and didn't notice you where there!

He passed me then begun accelerating hard...I think he did notice

He has a 5-speed automatic gearbox, combined with 1300 pounds more and maybe 91 octane because he really needs cheap gas for that thirsty engine (I had 94)...maybe its just possible to hold on and even more

jippii ensio · 09-14-2009, 06:53 AM

At those speeds weight is a fraction of the resistance of the drag. You were behind him, so the drag did not hit you as hard. No wonder you kept up with him.

Edit: just noticed that you were not properly modded... So might be something wrong with his car

Fully modded 335 could keep up with it.

sokdo · 09-14-2009, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jippii ensio

At those speeds weight is a fraction of the resistance of the drag. You were behind him, so the drag did not hit you as hard. No wonder you kept up with him.

Do you mean drafting? Not being sarcastic, just genuinely curious if that's what you meant.

jippii ensio · 09-14-2009, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sokdo

Do you mean drafting? Not being sarcastic, just genuinely curious if that's what you meant.

Drag as Air resistance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_%28physics%29

mmm def · 09-14-2009, 07:23 AM

He was probably 50% throttle.

Sniz · 09-14-2009, 07:45 AM

a CL600 really should pull you at high speeds assuming its stock. If its modified at all you would be posting about a big mercedes that raped you but your unsure of what model since you couldnt read the badging.

GreenPlease · 09-14-2009, 09:00 AM

+1

People compare cars to 63s, 600s, and even 65s based on their somewhat sluggish 0-60 numbers but are totally unaware of what they can do once they are at speed. Seriously, it is a joke how hard an SL65 can pull from 60 to 120.

stressdoc · 09-14-2009, 09:09 AM

He was thinking about the 10 Euros in fuel it was going to cost him to floor it.

Sniz · 09-14-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by stressdoc

He was thinking about the 10 Euros in fuel it was going to cost him to floor it.

Ferre86 · 09-14-2009, 10:06 AM

lol if you would hear the power of V12 you gonna have no chance to chase him
CL 's are heavy 0-60 dont wanna count it that but after 100 mhp just flies..

easy2speed · 09-14-2009, 10:11 AM

Sounds like a CL550 with a CL600 badge. The CL550's are no slouch, but you should be able to pull on one with your mods. You wouldn't believe how many people upgrade their badges on Mercedes.

mylydiamy · 09-14-2009, 10:17 AM

He just wanted to make you happy just like I do at least a few times each day including Civics (not even SI), Potiac G6, Accord V6, Altima V6 and many others. Hey, I like to make people happy and I get happy when I see their faces showing how happy they are because with their 20-30K car they beat 60K car

He probaly did not pull away purposely. Otherwise you would need a binacular to see his rear license plate aspicially over 80 mph.

645Nm · 09-14-2009, 10:56 AM

I don't think cstavaru was claiming a win and gloating about it. He acknowledge the guy was slowing down and was just asking...if
"Was he just playing ?"

so its obvious they were both having a bit of fun...by now you should know our confidence levels as 335/135 owners is sky high...win or lose

Sniz · 09-14-2009, 11:39 AM

OP

Did the CL600 look like this:

or like this

both of these shots I took at MIR during private track rentals. Both of these cars were wicked fast. The older one doing the burnout has seen high 10's at 130mph.

BaLLzZz · 09-14-2009, 03:27 PM

i raced a worked one with alot more then just a power kit and got crushed

DOUT · 09-14-2009, 10:10 PM

are you sure it wasn't a 500 badged as a 600?
douches tend to do that

josephr25 · 09-15-2009, 01:54 AM

Top-end the CL will easily outrun a 335.

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cstavaru Brigadier General 314 Rep 3,262 Posts Drives: 2009 335i M Sport Sedan 6MT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bucharest, Romania iTrader: (0)	335i (with BMW Peformance Power Kit) vs. CL600 I accelerated in the back of a CL600 (the new body style) who was accelerating hard on the highway and he couldn't get away, on the contrary I couldn't use full throttle because I was approaching him after about 120mph. Then I passed him but he seemed to slow down a little. The CL600 has about 500 crank horespower (V12 turbo) vs 335i + Power Kit which has 326 (as per BMW). His weight is 2200kg, mine is 1610. Was he just playing ? __________________ Mods(click): Cobb + RB Turbos \| Aquamist HFS-4 Meth \| Drexler LSD \| Bilstein B12 Pro-Kit \| Custom K&N Apollo Intake \| Wagner Intercooler \| Macht Schnell Downpipes \| BMW Performance Power Kit \| BMW Performance Exhaust \| BMW Performance Short Shifter \| M3 Subframe Bushings \|
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trixman Major 33 Rep 1,269 Posts Drives: A Rental Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Creepy Crawley iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 BMW E92 335d [0.00] 2003 M3 CSL [0.00] 2007 E92 335i [0.00]	You: 202/ton Him: 227/ton I would have thought that car would eat you for breakfast though. If you were around those high speeds I would have thought that's where his V12 would really shine.
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	the CL600 does like 0-62 in 4.8 sec. I guess at high speed it should be much faster than a 335i with only the Power kit. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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jippii ensio Major 68 Rep 1,432 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: On the road iTrader: (0)	At those speeds weight is a fraction of the resistance of the drag. You were behind him, so the drag did not hit you as hard. No wonder you kept up with him. Edit: just noticed that you were not properly modded... So might be something wrong with his car Fully modded 335 could keep up with it. Last edited by jippii ensio; 09-14-2009 at 09:43 AM..
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Sniz Lieutenant General 658 Rep 10,587 Posts Drives: e92 335 - gone // e36 M3 turbo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD iTrader: (1)	a CL600 really should pull you at high speeds assuming its stock. If its modified at all you would be posting about a big mercedes that raped you but your unsure of what model since you couldnt read the badging. __________________
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GreenPlease Lieutenant Colonel 129 Rep 1,629 Posts Drives: BMW 335i e92 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orlando Florida iTrader: (2)	+1 People compare cars to 63s, 600s, and even 65s based on their somewhat sluggish 0-60 numbers but are totally unaware of what they can do once they are at speed. Seriously, it is a joke how hard an SL65 can pull from 60 to 120.
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Sniz Lieutenant General 658 Rep 10,587 Posts Drives: e92 335 - gone // e36 M3 turbo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD iTrader: (1)	OP Did the CL600 look like this: or like this both of these shots I took at MIR during private track rentals. Both of these cars were wicked fast. The older one doing the burnout has seen high 10's at 130mph. __________________
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