BMW Performance: no LSD because lack of demand ! And new steering wheel...

cstavaru · 01-08-2010, 04:49 PM

According to this nice interview:

http://www.bimmerfile.com/2010/01/08...s-eric-riehle/

it appears that there is no demand for a LSD...is there anything we can do to increase demand ?

Also, there is a new, cheaper Performance Steering wheel (which would match perfectly with my M-Sport alcantara interior

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scott@bmwhn · 01-08-2010, 04:55 PM

the new wheel is nice! we have one on display and one in our BMW Performance demo car (along with the knobs and boots). def. one going in my car soon

Ramos · 01-08-2010, 05:00 PM

Great read, thanks
Too bad that they don't see a market for LSD's

Slidewayz · 01-08-2010, 05:02 PM

There is a market for LSDs, just not at their price point.

cstavaru · 01-08-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Slidewayz

There is a market for LSDs, just not at their price point.

I think a LSD from BMW would actually be cheaper than a Quaife or Wavetrac. Look at the costs for an OEM M3 LSD. It's cheaper.

Oh, and by offering a LSD, they could actually win a comparison with the Audi S4...

(Power Kit + Exhaust + LSD...win)

GreenPlease · 01-08-2010, 05:59 PM

I don't want to turn this into one of "those" threads but the new S4 is really a tough act to beat. Sure, the weight distribution isn't perfect but DCT+Torque Vectoring Rear Diff+400bhp=win.

cuban335i · 01-08-2010, 06:11 PM

I have the new performance steering wheel in my car and I love it! It's really really sporty and made my interior much more agressive like my exterior..

Outlaw 06 · 01-08-2010, 07:14 PM

This is one of the reasons why the performance of the E9x 335i can't compare with the E46 M3. The power delivery in the E46 M3 is far superior...

i2iSTUDIOS · 01-08-2010, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenPlease

I don't want to turn this into one of "those" threads but the new S4 is really a tough act to beat. Sure, the weight distribution isn't perfect but DCT+Torque Vectoring Rear Diff+400bhp=win.

400? i thought it was <350

marcel b · 01-09-2010, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by i2iSTUDIOS

400? i thought it was <350

exactly! I drove one last week and was not that impressed. Of course the 4x4 helps in winter conditions to put the power on the road. Anyhow, BMW should take an example at Audi, they even offer an LSD on there S4.

marcel b · 01-09-2010, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstavaru

According to this nice interview:

http://www.bimmerfile.com/2010/01/08...s-eric-riehle/

it appears that there is no demand for a LSD...is there anything we can do to increase demand ?

Also, there is a new, cheaper Performance Steering wheel (which would match perfectly with my M-Sport alcantara interior

)

I do not understand them saying there is no demand. They should have a look here in the forum

I would probably buy it for them if they would sell one at a competing price.

edo · 01-09-2010, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstavaru

I think a LSD from BMW would actually be cheaper than a Quaife or Wavetrac. Look at the costs for an OEM M3 LSD. It's cheaper.

If I had to buy an LSD again, I would never look into BMW one, I would go for Quaife again.
And there definitely is a demand, but probably there's no demand for BMW LSD as they are inferior compared to Quaife or other well known manufacturers' LSDs. Moreover, most of BMW performance parts' price/performance ratio was always worse than other aftermarket parts manufacturers'.

marcel b · 01-09-2010, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by edo

If I had to buy an LSD again, I would never look into BMW one, I would go for Quaife again.
And there definitely is a demand, but probably there's no demand for BMW LSD as they are inferior compared to Quaife or other well known manufacturers' LSDs. Moreover, most of BMW performance parts' price/performance ratio was always worse than other aftermarket parts manufacturers'.

you have a point there... would however probably easier to resell the car. But if it would considerable cheaper then a Quaife, it would be a good option for daily driving.

CubanJJ09 · 01-09-2010, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstavaru

According to this nice interview:

http://www.bimmerfile.com/2010/01/08...s-eric-riehle/

it appears that there is no demand for a LSD...is there anything we can do to increase demand ?

Also, there is a new, cheaper Performance Steering wheel (which would match perfectly with my M-Sport alcantara interior

)

here ill be the first. I WANT AN LSD!!! at least make it a performance package option or something.

A418t81 · 01-09-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TJDiCandido

This is one of the reasons why the performance of the E9x 335i can't compare with the E46 M3. The power delivery in the E46 M3 is far superior...

Perhaps in feel, but car and driver has lap times from both cars that are nearly identical. Chalk it up to the endless march of technology.

Mr. 5 · 01-09-2010, 11:19 AM

This is my opinion...
Why the hell do they have to make a steering wheel with alcantera wrapped all over it? That stuff SUCKS and looks like complete ass after about 6 months.
Perferated leather is ideal.

Zero.7 · 01-09-2010, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

This is my opinion...
Why the hell do they have to make a steering wheel with alcantera wrapped all over it? That stuff SUCKS and looks like complete ass after about 6 months.
Perferated leather is ideal.

I do love the look and feel of the alcantara wheels. BUT as you stated, they do look quite beat up after a few months....especially if you have overactive sweat glands. Unless they have made them better somehow....we're going to have the same issues as with the e46 ZHP with the Alcantara steering wheels. Remember the dealerships having to replace a lot of them due to customer complaints about the quality of the Alcantara.

Craig@SupremePower · 01-09-2010, 12:15 PM

silly ass bmw...

marcel b · 01-09-2010, 12:16 PM

take the M sport steering wheel!

Looks good, feels great and it never slipped in my hands.

stressdoc · 01-10-2010, 01:30 PM

Sad.

If BMW is going to take the challenge from Audi S seriously LSD is mandatory.

I love my Quaife.

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