NO DCT - 1M-Coupe !!!

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

There was a Prototype with M-DCT built for evaluation alongside the manuals , unfortunately because this is a (for M) a very cost effective project the costs threatened to spiral out of control in terms for the inclusion of an M DCT. There is also the time factor running against. Had we done this earlier then we would have had the time to accomodate.

With the introduction of the next generation 1er hatch less than twelve months away . The strategy is to take the 1M further away from the hatch so that both cars will be individually distinguished. or in simple form? The 1M is an M car .
We are looking at a life span of just over 2 years for the 1M , the only reason for the go-ahead was to produce something that can be made quickly by using off the shelf parts.

What we are looking at is since the first official video introduction is that serious interest is now over 10,000, it initially depends on the reaction and if there is demand. If BMW discover that there is demand for such a car then they might try to accomodate , it all depends on the outcome. For which there is no definite answer at this time.

Although because there is more time for the engineers , the next generation
1M which will arrive in 2014 will be engineered to accept both transmissions.

[PrimoM3]

Couldn't care less...

[mixxer]

Waited so long for the perfect car and they went and ruined it. Just what i want to do,sit in stop and go traffic with a stick car.

[Boosted_N54]

Originally Posted by mixxer

Waited so long for the perfect car and they went and ruined it. Just what i want to do,sit in stop and go traffic with a stick car.

from your point of view, YES they ruined it for others that love stick shift driving well it just got better..

[ORIGIN M.]

Joy is having a choice!

Originally Posted by mixxer

Waited so long for the perfect car and they went and ruined it...

[penny]

Even my DD 2010 Corolla is a manual. Man up.

[PrimoM3]

Originally Posted by mixxer

Waited so long for the perfect car and they went and ruined it. Just what i want to do,sit in stop and go traffic with a stick car.

Benefits > Disadvantages in a manual.
Find a new route to/from work...???

[Mprofiler]

don't they charge for DCT anyways? How could it threaten profits? If DCT was included then I could see a problem, but since they charge for auto/dct transmissions in all their cars then I don't think it would be a loss for BMW. Maybe I'm missing something but isn't DCT already an off teh shelf part? Would it take that much expense to upgrade the current DCT trans in the 135i for the 1M? IMO offering the DCT trans for the 1M will only help attract more customers.

edit: only real reason i could see by not offering DCT is that they haven't really had much time to test the DCT trans in the 1M compared to the manual.

[Future M1 owner]

Guys, the pro DCT group is just asking for the choice. They're in no way cramping the stickshifters' style. And the "manual=the manly choice-argument" has been beaten to death on every automotive forum on the planet.

[PrimoM3]

I wonder if the decision was also influenced by their desire to keep the 1///M from stepping on the ///M3's toes. In terms of track times it will not hang with a DCT equipped competition pkg ///M3. Fine by me... I want involvement, feel and driving pleasure. Not to beat xxxx by 2 tenths of a second on xxxx track.

[IS3andME]

Originally Posted by penny

Even my DD 2010 Corolla is a manual. Man up.

You try sitting in Balt-Washington DC traffic with a stick. Especially beach traffic or in the afternoon...2-4 hrs of sitting there, crawling, or just sitting.
All the people I've seen and know with MT Evos, STis, Honda Civics Sis, all either work locally, don't really get into traffic, or drive at night. Manual is fun for buzzing around

[radiantm3]

Originally Posted by IS3andME

You try sitting in Balt-Washington DC traffic with a stick. Especially beach traffic or in the afternoon...2-4 hrs of sitting there, crawling, or just sitting.
All the people I've seen and know with MT Evos, STis, Honda Civics Sis, all either work locally, don't really get into traffic, or drive at night. Manual is fun for buzzing around

I drove a manual for 2 years in Los Angeles traffic. My 40 minute commute was 1.5-2 hours daily (one way). It was tiring, but I never once wished I had an anything else. You see all those Honda S2000's on the road every day? Every single one of those are a manual. I don't remember anyone ever wishing Honda made the S2000 with an alternate transmission.

I'm sure there are plenty of reasons to want DCT, but if this car is as great as BMW makes it out to be, does it really matter? The only people who will truly be upset are those who don't know how to drive a manual.

[Evice]

think this car a bit old school! e30 didn't have dct either lol

[Evice]

Originally Posted by IS3andME

You try sitting in Balt-Washington DC traffic with a stick. Especially beach traffic or in the afternoon...2-4 hrs of sitting there, crawling, or just sitting.
All the people I've seen and know with MT Evos, STis, Honda Civics Sis, all either work locally, don't really get into traffic, or drive at night. Manual is fun for buzzing around

I drove in Istanbul many years with manual just like 90% of the city. try THAT

Dont cry about stick plz

[ORIGIN M.]

Come on, is that all you can come up with? That is FUNNY as hell...

Originally Posted by radiantm3

The only people who will truly be upset are those who don't know how to drive a manual.

[blacknbean]

great news (for me) since i plan to buy used someday this will make finding the perfect 1M even easier. it was a bitch trying to find a e92 in manual. even the new m3 is hard to find 6MT.

this will seperate the men from the boys

[ORIGIN M.]

Such an ignorant statement, it goes well with the one above.

Originally Posted by blacknbean

this will seperate the men from the boys

[Future M1 owner]

Even the men are slightly faster with the DCT than with the manual.
Edited to add: What's up with this simplistic assumption that if you like the DCT, you're evidently terrible at operating a manual?

[HVYWGHT]

It's just means fewer people who you know will be able to drive your car. Has worked with my manual MINI for over 6 years.

[niuniu]

How many of you absolutely just wouldn't purchase the 1M if you couldn't get it with a DCT though? I guess many drivers who want an auto would still buy it with a manual, but could be wrong.

[Madozu]

Originally Posted by Primo135

I wonder if the decision was also influenced by their desire to keep the 1///M from stepping on the ///M3's toes. In terms of track times it will not hang with a DCT equipped competition pkg ///M3. Fine by me... I want involvement, feel and driving pleasure. Not to beat xxxx by 2 tenths of a second on xxxx track.

Well said

[ORIGIN M.]

I WILL NOT PURCHASE IT W/OUT DCT.

It is the best gearbox they make for a boosted car, period!

Originally Posted by niuniu

How many of you absolutely just wouldn't purchase the 1M if you couldn't get it with a DCT though? I guess many drivers who want an auto would still buy it with a manual, but could be wrong.