Wheel Torque Amount?

Coolieman1220 · 11-13-2010, 03:12 PM

Just swapped on my winters today. My 195's will now be put to rest while the Rial Salerno's take place. I havn't driven her yet since backing out the garage. I torqued the lugs to 85 ft-lbs. What is the recommended spec? I found the lugs were very hard to break while taking them off. I checked the manual but didn't find anything. Also they are 225/45 r17 on all 4 corners, what PSI should i run? I have them at 35psi right now. Any advice?

I found the heavy offset pushes the wheels out a lot, especially in the front. I guess the staggered rears make it ok but still it would look good w/ a spacer.

cb4 · 11-13-2010, 03:20 PM

88 ft/lbs is the recommended torque.

fdriller9 · 11-13-2010, 03:41 PM

I thought it was 87 but I'm sure 1lb won't matter.

I always torque my wheels to 87 ft/lb and never have problems breaking the lugs. I do sometimes have problems taking the wheel off the hub though.

NiVeDh · 11-13-2010, 03:47 PM

ft/lb is not a unit of torque.

fdriller9 · 11-13-2010, 03:54 PM

lol whoops

Mr. ///M3 RD · 11-13-2010, 03:59 PM

Looks like you are in the ball park. However, ask your BMW Service Manager if you like to know exactly would be my recommendation. Also ask him what the +/- tolerance is in his shop (should be +/- something on the wrench being used).

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Mr. ///M3 RD · 11-13-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by *********

lol whoops

over and under torque is not a laughing matter in my opinion

cb4 · 11-13-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by *********

I thought it was 87 but I'm sure 1lb won't matter.

I always torque my wheels to 87 ft/lb and never have problems breaking the lugs. I do sometimes have problems taking the wheel off the hub though.

Yeah anywhere between 85 and 90 is fine. I think the official BMW recommendation is 120 Newton-Meters. This translates to 88.5 lb-ft.

2kaccordocoupe · 11-14-2010, 03:35 AM

Torque specs have been covered in the thread already so I will skip that. For tire pressue you need to follow what is printed in the drivers side door jamb. For me it is 36psi fronts and 41 psi rears.

fdriller9 · 11-14-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolf-Dieter

over and under torque is not a laughing matter in my opinion

I was laughing at the fact that I typed ft/lb by mistake....it should have been lb-ft.

I also said 87 (at first ft/lb, but I'm sure people can figure out it's suppose to be lb-ft) which is right in that range....

Coolieman1220 · 12-12-2010, 08:14 PM

Are the lugs supposed to break easily? I find they break very easy when torqued to 88. maybe my torque wrench isn't right? I can very easily crack the nut w/ a breaker bar.

NiVeDh · 12-12-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Coolieman1220

Are the lugs supposed to break easily? I find they break very easy when torqued to 88. maybe my torque wrench isn't right? I can very easily crack the nut w/ a breaker bar.

A long breaker bar will easily loosen lugs that are torqued to 88 lb-ft. I'm assuming and hoping you mean "break" and "crack" as in loosen, not as in causing physical damage.

ninesixtwo · 12-12-2010, 09:34 PM

nice wheels!

I guessed from E46 spec but I also use 120 N•m. I think maybe it was initially 100 N•m for E46 but BMW increased it. Been a while, I forget now.

VMRWheels · 12-13-2010, 05:31 PM

BMW Specs:

87 lb ft., +/- 7

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virk007 · 12-13-2010, 09:18 PM

Did you use your original lug nuts or the one's TireRack provided? Would the OEM wheel lock nut fit or do i need a new set of wheel lock nuts for winter?

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Coolieman1220 Banned 73 Rep 1,770 Posts Drives: 2010 335d Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York City iTrader: (0)	Are the lugs supposed to break easily? I find they break very easy when torqued to 88. maybe my torque wrench isn't right? I can very easily crack the nut w/ a breaker bar.
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