Windscreen Washer Motor

andyo1974 · 12-07-2010, 02:44 AM

Morning all, first post so be kind!
My windscreen / headlight washer system has stopped working. I stupidly used it last night at -5c and as expected everything froze! The result it that today nothing works, no noise from the motor...NOTHING!
Any ideas???

cp2708 · 12-07-2010, 03:12 AM

Still Frozen?

andyo1974 · 12-07-2010, 03:16 AM

Yeah, although I'd still expect to hear the motor..unless that has frozen? Wonder whether the fuse has gone? If so do you know the fuse number?

xenon · 12-07-2010, 03:20 AM

41

andyo1974 · 12-07-2010, 03:20 AM

Cheers

briers · 12-07-2010, 03:55 AM

Mine froze too, -13 so it was inevitable.

Since putting it in my garage which is heated, both headlight washer arms have retracted back into place.

Now i've just put double concentrate screenwasher fluid in, neat, from halfords. That should do it unless the mechanism is faulty.

Any ideas what fuse it is for the 335d coupe just in case. I thought our fuses (48?) control something else too?

andyo1974 · 12-07-2010, 04:31 AM

Are you getting any noise from the motor? I'm getting nothing at all, although its outside work and its about -2 so no chance really of it defrosting! I had a look around and also noticed that it appears to be fuse 48?

xenon · 12-07-2010, 04:34 AM

Sorry, I meant 48.

briers · 12-07-2010, 05:04 AM

No motor noise for me once it had frozen.

Try and get it thawed, maybe park in the sun, top up with concentrate, neat. Halfords claims it works down to -23, that might un block the frozen washer.

Best to try and get it thawed as warm water will still freeze.

Don't forget it will only fire on the 5th spray when the lights are switched on.

andyo1974 · 12-07-2010, 05:13 AM

Cheers Ben, keep me updated on your progress!!
Andy

andyo1974 · 12-07-2010, 06:05 AM

Update...boiling water fixed it!

Baby Dave · 12-07-2010, 10:39 AM

The motor stops working when the temp drops to prevent you from smearing shite over the windscreen when the washer fluid won't come out. As above hot water will sort it

xenon · 12-07-2010, 10:44 AM

Well it doesn't stop shite being smeared everywhere as the wipers still drive even with no water.

Tippo · 12-07-2010, 01:38 PM

My motor whined away this AM when I tried it a couple of times despite the temp gauge saying -10c.

Got no screenwash though as it appeared to be froze. Checked tonight and the cheapo Tesco screenwash only works to -5 undiluted ffs. Guess that's why it's cheap then.

effone · 12-07-2010, 01:54 PM

if the water is frozen completely, then the pumps impellor won't be able to turn... which means you won't hear it...

however if you hang on the stalk hoping for something... then it's goodnight mr fuse...

ian b

JJD · 12-07-2010, 05:43 PM

Be careful ... boiling water vs -10 anything is asking for trouble, lukewarm is as far as I'd go at the mo.

Tippo · 12-08-2010, 01:37 PM

Would never do that myself as it will just re-freeze. Just waited for warmer weather which we got today, a balmy -1. Now mine are working as normal. Will have to get some of the Halfords stuff though.

Btw are the washer jets heated on these cars?

Tippo · 12-09-2010, 08:16 AM

Found out only the nozzles are heated so if you have frozen water in the pipes then not much is gonna get out even if you put in more dilluted wash.

Also found out that the Halfords double concentrate stuff comes in 3 different fragrances, how quaint!

12-07-2010, 02:44 AM	#1
andyo1974 New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: 330m Sport Couple Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Merseyside iTrader: (0)	Windscreen Washer Motor Morning all, first post so be kind! My windscreen / headlight washer system has stopped working. I stupidly used it last night at -5c and as expected everything froze! The result it that today nothing works, no noise from the motor...NOTHING! Any ideas???
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12-07-2010, 03:12 AM	#2
cp2708 Private 0 Rep 50 Posts Drives: 2002 325i, 2012 C63 AMG Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: London iTrader: (0)	Still Frozen?
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12-07-2010, 03:16 AM	#3
andyo1974 New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: 330m Sport Couple Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Merseyside iTrader: (0)	Yeah, although I'd still expect to hear the motor..unless that has frozen? Wonder whether the fuse has gone? If so do you know the fuse number?
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andyo1974 New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: 330m Sport Couple Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Merseyside iTrader: (0)	Cheers
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12-07-2010, 03:55 AM	#6
briers Ben 62 Rep 1,992 Posts Drives: Tesla p85d Join Date: May 2010 Location: Midlands,UK iTrader: (0)	Mine froze too, -13 so it was inevitable. Since putting it in my garage which is heated, both headlight washer arms have retracted back into place. Now i've just put double concentrate screenwasher fluid in, neat, from halfords. That should do it unless the mechanism is faulty. Any ideas what fuse it is for the 335d coupe just in case. I thought our fuses (48?) control something else too?
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12-07-2010, 04:31 AM	#7
andyo1974 New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: 330m Sport Couple Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Merseyside iTrader: (0)	Are you getting any noise from the motor? I'm getting nothing at all, although its outside work and its about -2 so no chance really of it defrosting! I had a look around and also noticed that it appears to be fuse 48?
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12-07-2010, 04:34 AM	#8
xenon Major General 1397 Rep 8,083 Posts Drives: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry iTrader: (0)	Sorry, I meant 48. __________________ Ian Current: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Previous: 2018 A6 Avant S-Line MMI+, 2014 F31 320d M-Sport, 2013 F10 520d M-Sport, 2011 F10 530d M-Sport, 2008 320i M-Sport Coupe, 2002 325i, 2001 318i valvetronic, 1998 318i, 1996 525i, 1990 Porsche 944S2
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12-07-2010, 05:04 AM	#9
briers Ben 62 Rep 1,992 Posts Drives: Tesla p85d Join Date: May 2010 Location: Midlands,UK iTrader: (0)	No motor noise for me once it had frozen. Try and get it thawed, maybe park in the sun, top up with concentrate, neat. Halfords claims it works down to -23, that might un block the frozen washer. Best to try and get it thawed as warm water will still freeze. Don't forget it will only fire on the 5th spray when the lights are switched on.
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12-07-2010, 05:13 AM	#10
andyo1974 New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: 330m Sport Couple Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Merseyside iTrader: (0)	Cheers Ben, keep me updated on your progress!! Andy
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12-07-2010, 06:05 AM	#11
andyo1974 New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: 330m Sport Couple Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Merseyside iTrader: (0)	Update...boiling water fixed it!
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12-07-2010, 10:39 AM	#12
Baby Dave Lieutenant Colonel 24 Rep 1,872 Posts Drives: E90 320d m sport Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sunny Lancs iTrader: (0)	The motor stops working when the temp drops to prevent you from smearing shite over the windscreen when the washer fluid won't come out. As above hot water will sort it __________________ E90 Msport, black leather, front seat heating,6Fl, bluetooth,sun protection glass,Alpine upgrade,non rft's
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12-07-2010, 10:44 AM	#13
xenon Major General 1397 Rep 8,083 Posts Drives: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry iTrader: (0)	Well it doesn't stop shite being smeared everywhere as the wipers still drive even with no water. __________________ Ian Current: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Previous: 2018 A6 Avant S-Line MMI+, 2014 F31 320d M-Sport, 2013 F10 520d M-Sport, 2011 F10 530d M-Sport, 2008 320i M-Sport Coupe, 2002 325i, 2001 318i valvetronic, 1998 318i, 1996 525i, 1990 Porsche 944S2
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12-07-2010, 01:38 PM	#14
Tippo Second Lieutenant 6 Rep 254 Posts Drives: Mk2 TT V6 quattro Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Midlands iTrader: (0)	My motor whined away this AM when I tried it a couple of times despite the temp gauge saying -10c. Got no screenwash though as it appeared to be froze. Checked tonight and the cheapo Tesco screenwash only works to -5 undiluted ffs. Guess that's why it's cheap then.
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12-07-2010, 01:54 PM	#15
effone Private First Class 12 Rep 125 Posts Drives: 335d m sport Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: bedfordshire iTrader: (0)	if the water is frozen completely, then the pumps impellor won't be able to turn... which means you won't hear it... however if you hang on the stalk hoping for something... then it's goodnight mr fuse... ian b
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12-07-2010, 05:43 PM	#16
JJD Lieutenant 7 Rep 436 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Central Scotland iTrader: (0)	Be careful ... boiling water vs -10 anything is asking for trouble, lukewarm is as far as I'd go at the mo.
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12-08-2010, 01:37 PM	#17
Tippo Second Lieutenant 6 Rep 254 Posts Drives: Mk2 TT V6 quattro Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Midlands iTrader: (0)	Would never do that myself as it will just re-freeze. Just waited for warmer weather which we got today, a balmy -1. Now mine are working as normal. Will have to get some of the Halfords stuff though. Btw are the washer jets heated on these cars?
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12-09-2010, 08:16 AM	#18
Tippo Second Lieutenant 6 Rep 254 Posts Drives: Mk2 TT V6 quattro Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Midlands iTrader: (0)	Found out only the nozzles are heated so if you have frozen water in the pipes then not much is gonna get out even if you put in more dilluted wash. Also found out that the Halfords double concentrate stuff comes in 3 different fragrances, how quaint!
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