Navigation went out.

E31BMW · 02-21-2011, 09:58 PM

So i am driving and i press the Nav button on my idrive controller. A message appears that says "this function currently not active" when i press the menu button, it shows me all the available functions but the word navigation is written in gray letter so as to say you cant click on it... i have an 09 with the new i drive.. is there anything i can do BESIDES for servicing it? i do have warranty and realize i can get this fixed for free at the dealer, but i just wanted to know if anyone encountered this issue, thanks.

Hound Passer · 02-21-2011, 10:07 PM

Hard drive failure of some variety. One of the downsides of having an HDD based system.

username604 · 02-21-2011, 10:18 PM

In only 2 years? maybe road vibrations caused it

E31BMW · 02-21-2011, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by davidkneiber

In only 2 years? maybe road vibrations caused it

The car has 6k miles. It's def a design defect

Lenaxia · 02-21-2011, 11:28 PM

Design defect? Hardly. You have to realize what a HDD is: it's a bunch of metal discs spinning at about 5400rpm. With a metal reader rod less than 1/32" away. You hit a bump and that rod is going to damage the HDD

HDDs are notoriously bad. Someone should try to get an SSD workin for their nav. It'd be faster and more reliable

E31BMW · 02-22-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenaxia

Design defect? Hardly. You have to realize what a HDD is: it's a bunch of metal discs spinning at about 5400rpm. With a metal reader rod less than 1/32" away. You hit a bump and that rod is going to damage the HDD

HDDs are notoriously bad. Someone should try to get an SSD workin for their nav. It'd be faster and more reliable

i realize what it is, but the car has seen no bumps. i know how i drive my car and how pampered it is. its not my first 335 with a hd based nav.

Rotary Rasp · 02-22-2011, 11:07 AM

4400 rpm for our nav hd... and the particular drive that bmw uses is specifically designed to be used in cars for navigation purposes. Your drive was a defect, nothing else.

E31BMW · 02-22-2011, 11:09 AM

Its pretty problem prone but there is no reason it should fail if not subjected to hardcore driving or anything of that nature.

bbob · 05-11-2011, 01:04 PM

so what was the solution??? im experiencing the EXACT same thing!! and i have an 09 e90 328i. so its the same model year...
im thinking about taking it to the dealer some time soon...

E31BMW · 05-11-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lilaznscboii

so what was the solution??? im experiencing the EXACT same thing!! and i have an 09 e90 328i. so its the same model year...
im thinking about taking it to the dealer some time soon...

it pretty much fixed itself. i gave it time to cool down overnight and it is fine. Just last week the screen went completely red and then blank for a while until i let it rest for a couple of hours by turning off the car and letting it sleep.

D8888J · 12-29-2011, 11:37 AM

Omg I got the same problem can't access nav or the DVD player , hdd music !! Any solution guys??

Orion4 · 12-29-2011, 02:09 PM

Sounds like the HDD controller is/has failed.

Exwoodchuck · 12-29-2011, 02:50 PM

Mine ('10 E90) failed a few months ago - same symptoms. You'll also find your Music Collection won't work along with your Phone book, as they're all HDD based. Got mine replaced under warranty, no issue at all.

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E31BMW Major 97 Rep 1,225 Posts Drives: Cars! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (28)	Navigation went out. So i am driving and i press the Nav button on my idrive controller. A message appears that says "this function currently not active" when i press the menu button, it shows me all the available functions but the word navigation is written in gray letter so as to say you cant click on it... i have an 09 with the new i drive.. is there anything i can do BESIDES for servicing it? i do have warranty and realize i can get this fixed for free at the dealer, but i just wanted to know if anyone encountered this issue, thanks.
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Hound Passer First Lieutenant 60 Rep 352 Posts Drives: 435i Convertible Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	Hard drive failure of some variety. One of the downsides of having an HDD based system.
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02-21-2011, 10:18 PM	#3
username604 Colonel 124 Rep 2,554 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: repair shop iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i [10.00]	In only 2 years? maybe road vibrations caused it
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Lenaxia Lieutenant 41 Rep 566 Posts Drives: 2006 330xi 6MT Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Santa Clara, CA iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 330xi [0.00]	Design defect? Hardly. You have to realize what a HDD is: it's a bunch of metal discs spinning at about 5400rpm. With a metal reader rod less than 1/32" away. You hit a bump and that rod is going to damage the HDD HDDs are notoriously bad. Someone should try to get an SSD workin for their nav. It'd be faster and more reliable __________________
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Rotary Rasp Lieutenant Colonel 241 Rep 1,857 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SoCal - Torrance iTrader: (6)	4400 rpm for our nav hd... and the particular drive that bmw uses is specifically designed to be used in cars for navigation purposes. Your drive was a defect, nothing else. __________________
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02-22-2011, 11:09 AM	#8
E31BMW Major 97 Rep 1,225 Posts Drives: Cars! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (28)	Its pretty problem prone but there is no reason it should fail if not subjected to hardcore driving or anything of that nature.
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bbob Second Lieutenant 13 Rep 282 Posts Drives: 2009 e90 328i, 2011 e92 m3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Los Angeles/ Berkeley iTrader: (1)	so what was the solution??? im experiencing the EXACT same thing!! and i have an 09 e90 328i. so its the same model year... im thinking about taking it to the dealer some time soon...
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12-29-2011, 11:37 AM	#11
D8888J New Member 3 Rep 24 Posts Drives: 335i 2009 M sport Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SYDNEY iTrader: (0)	Omg I got the same problem can't access nav or the DVD player , hdd music !! Any solution guys??
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Orion4 Lieutenant Colonel 481 Rep 1,572 Posts Drives: 2013 335i Sport Line Sedan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne, FL iTrader: (0)	Sounds like the HDD controller is/has failed.
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12-29-2011, 02:50 PM	#13
Exwoodchuck Private 4 Rep 83 Posts Drives: Yes Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Hometown, US iTrader: (0)	Mine ('10 E90) failed a few months ago - same symptoms. You'll also find your Music Collection won't work along with your Phone book, as they're all HDD based. Got mine replaced under warranty, no issue at all.
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