H&R Lowering springs installed! VA -30mm RA -15mm

M3Power79 · 07-13-2011, 02:19 PM

Just installed

First impressions are good. Not really more uncomfortable then it is stock. First i was afraid that it would become more bumpy but it isn't. Roads in Belgium are a disaster so this was not an option. Bodyroll is on public roads almost not noticable, a closed circuit will be a better place to push the suspension to the limit

Looks have IMPROVED significant!!!!
Bye bye fist wheelgap at the front

Some pictures :

TunedM2C · 07-13-2011, 02:25 PM

Perfect! Are these the M3 H&R springs?

M3Power79 · 07-13-2011, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuned1

Perfect! Are these the M3 H&R springs?

Nope : 1M Springs ( check the number on the spring )

http://www.h-r.com/de/n_produkt.php?id=1973

TunedM2C · 07-13-2011, 02:40 PM

Thanks.

nicoz · 07-13-2011, 04:04 PM

Hi,

How much and how did you ordered them?

Thanks

mPlasticDesign · 07-13-2011, 04:28 PM

Nice. I might just do the fronts only.

M3Power79 · 07-13-2011, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicoz

Hi,

How much and how did you ordered them?

Thanks

They cost 397 € and i've ordered them here in Belgium by the H&R importer

M3Power79 · 07-13-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ///Metak

Nice. I might just do the fronts only.

I would not do that because the car would lower 30mm at the front only and will lean to much forward. The balance will be disturbed and understeer will show up. The H&R springs are also stiffer so that would complety disturb the car. In this picture you'll see what i mean :

elitt13 · 07-13-2011, 04:42 PM

nice!!!

1SerieStud · 07-13-2011, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3Power79

I would not do that because the car would lower 30mm at the front only and will lean to much forward. The balance will be disturbed and understeer will show up. The H&R springs are also stiffer so that would complety disturb the car. In this picture you'll see what i mean :

You already disturbed the car by changing the geometry of the M suspension - which is one of the best things this car has to offer. Let alone that the stock struts/shocks were not designed to work with H&R springs.

Dan Parker · 07-13-2011, 05:26 PM

Looks better. Performs worse.

mPlasticDesign · 07-14-2011, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Parker

Looks better. Performs worse.

this

I have no plans to do any serious tracking like Dan. The back stance is perfect, wouldn't mind if the front was 3/4-1.0" lower for appearance. Seems like such a modest drop would have little affect on the OE dampners or performance. My M3 did not have EDC, so I went with the Dinan Stage I setup and it seems to put it at a similar feel to the 'sport' setting on the EDC. It also increased travel rather than reducing it like most springs do. Maybe I'll wait and see what Steve comes up with for this car or if it can be used straight across between models.

M3Power79 · 07-14-2011, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Parker

Looks better. Performs worse.

It doens't feel so. It feels more planted on high speed. My former E36 M3 3.2 was also lowered with just springs from Eibach on dampers from Bilstein (B8). This wasn't a kit also but they worked fine together.
I'll fly over to the Dragons tail to show you

gazz · 07-14-2011, 03:27 AM

Bye bye front wheel gap - hello front bumper scrapes.

Mistercup · 07-14-2011, 05:31 AM

Really magnificent with the belittlement. Just what missed him(her).

It seems to me that there is already some 1 Mr Mais I have no again seen it: (

We never know, if you know not. I am a member of the bmw-one.com forum Belgian Forum BMW

Grey Dove · 07-14-2011, 06:06 AM

30mm lower in front??? that's a lot. I must say it looks way way better

bmw13 · 07-14-2011, 07:23 AM

Why are people so eager to change out the high quality M parts that we get stock for aftermarket parts?!? BMW's M engineers know what they are doing and I am sure they had it like this for a reason!! Obviously for performance purposes, and something like that, I would not mess with, but to each their own.

Dan Parker · 07-14-2011, 08:47 AM

Did the alignment work out to get it back to factory specs (or close)? I'm changing my suspension out for Motons in 2 weeks and wonder if I'll need adjustable bits.

M3Power79 · 07-14-2011, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Parker

Did the alignment work out to get it back to factory specs (or close)? I'm changing my suspension out for Motons in 2 weeks and wonder if I'll need adjustable bits.

The alignment worked out to be quite simple and fits in the factory specs perfecly. Their is a big tolerance in most values to align the car the way you want to drive it. I choose for a more track oriented aproach with enough negative wheelflight for example.

M3Power79 · 07-14-2011, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazz

Bye bye front wheel gap - hello front bumper scrapes.

Here in Belgium we hava bumps to slow down traffic everywhere and the not steep ones i can take as i did before. Not met a steep one till now

I'll be carefull, that's for sure. But i always do, lowered or not

Franklin Joseph · 07-14-2011, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Parker

I'm changing my suspension out for Motons in 2 weeks and wonder if I'll need adjustable bits.

What other adjustable bits are available? My suspension should be installed in a couple weeks (hopefully) and will align/corner balance then.

MDORPHN · 07-14-2011, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franklin Joseph

What other adjustable bits are available? My suspension should be installed in a couple weeks (hopefully) and will align/corner balance then.

Camber/caster plates.

Neil

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