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      09-17-2011, 11:20 PM   #1
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OEM Bridgestone RFT vs. Ultra High Performance AS

How would you compare the street cornering and braking performance of an ultra high performance A/S tire, like the Continental DWS, to the OEM Bridgestone RFT? My wife has an '08 335i that's about due for new tires. I'm not sure if I should ditch the RFT for non-RFT.

I understand that the non-RFT's would ride much better than RFT's and that the tread wear would be less severe. I'm looking at ultra high performance A/S tires because even though Houston is a warm weather city, we do have several weeks a year where the temperature falls below 40 degrees.

We never track my car and it's used mainly as a DD.

Thanks in advance for your input.
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      09-18-2011, 02:10 AM   #2
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I just replaced my oem Bridgestones with Michelin A/S Plus.

The A/S is a lot softer than rft's but give a more comfortable ride.
I understand the Conti a/s tire is even softer, even "Slushy".

Depends if you want soft vs Firm. Hope this helps
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      09-18-2011, 02:15 AM   #3
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Since your looking for all seasons take a look at general gmax I have them and they are very good tires. I had 16" continental runflats, I cant comment on the bridgestones, but the generals are better than the conti's for sure. The ride is pretty much exactly the same going from 16" rft's to 19 non-rft's.
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I just replaced my oem Bridgestones with Michelin A/S Plus.

The A/S is a lot softer than rft's but give a more comfortable ride.
I understand the Conti a/s tire is even softer, even "Slushy".

Depends if you want soft vs Firm. Hope this helps
I have these on my 335 sport package sedan. Ride is WAY better, handling just as good. Turn-in not as harsh (some say "precise"...), and they don't hop like demented bunnies on meth in bumpy turns.

Oh, and they cost 2/3 as much and will last twice as long. What's not to like?

If you go this way, try upping the tire pressures a bit from stock. I run 36 front and 38 rear with normal loads. I'm convinced the low stock pressures were a fruitless attempt by BMW to compensate for the incredibly bad ride of the runflats. People who find conventionals "mushy" might still be running the stock pressures.
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Thanks for your help. I see that you feel the handling of the DWS's are as good as the stock summer RFT's. How about braking distance?


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I have these on my 335 sport package sedan. Ride is WAY better, handling just as good. Turn-in not as harsh (some say "precise"...), and they don't hop like demented bunnies on meth in bumpy turns.

Oh, and they cost 2/3 as much and will last twice as long. What's not to like?

If you go this way, try upping the tire pressures a bit from stock. I run 36 front and 38 rear with normal loads. I'm convinced the low stock pressures were a fruitless attempt by BMW to compensate for the incredibly bad ride of the runflats. People who find conventionals "mushy" might still be running the stock pressures.
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Thanks for your help. I see that you feel the handling of the DWS's are as good as the stock summer RFT's. How about braking distance?
I have the Michelin PS2 A/S+. Braking is fine, appears to be the same dry or wet as the summer version, which I ran on my E36 M3. Probably better than the Bridgestones, I think the only thing they were ever good for is not going flat.

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The PS2 is one tire, the Sport A/S plus is another. Which do you have?
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The PS2 is one tire, the Sport A/S plus is another. Which do you have?
As I said, I have Michelin PS2 A/S+ -- bought them last year; have they been superceded by a Sport A/S version? News to me.

BTW, I bought them from you guys!
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Gary -- OOPS, you're right! Just checked, sure enough they say Pilot Sport A/S+. Funny, always thought they were A/S version of the PS2.

In any case, everything else I said about their performance is, I believe, correct!
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Its all good, I just try to keep some of the info straight for future searches.
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