4 HID kits without relays?

turbocomppro · 10-11-2011, 12:21 PM

I plan to convert my AE and fog lights with all 35watt HID kits. Will I have any problems without using relays?

fdriller9 · 10-11-2011, 12:37 PM

I don't think you can fit hids in the E90 LCI halogen housings for the angel eyes.

Not sure about the relays.

cole92 · 10-11-2011, 12:41 PM

Are you talking relay's or the ballasts?

turbocomppro · 10-11-2011, 01:00 PM

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I don't think you can fit hids in the E90 LCI halogen housings for the angel eyes.

Not sure about the relays.

I'll be doing a custom fit (hopefully). I'll post in the DIY section once I'm done.

I've read people having flickering because of power issues but I didn't go into details. Since the original halogen bulbs are 35 watts, I don't think hooking up a 35watt HID kit to them would cause any power issues. Is that logical?

cole92 · 10-11-2011, 01:11 PM

There won't be if you buy the right ballasts.

Keep in mind, you will be illegally modifying your headlights and can be ticketed, impounded, etc.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-11-2011, 01:17 PM

I dont think relays are the concern. I would be more concerned with tripping errors on the dashboard. Generic HID kits will not work on this car, especially in the angel eye areas.

turbocomppro · 10-11-2011, 01:18 PM

I don't see how changing the AE bulbs would be illegal. I'll still have the original halogen main beam bulbs, I'm not changing those.

Besides, I'm in China. You don't get tickets here for lights. Hehehe

turbocomppro · 10-11-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

I dont think relays are the concern. I would be more concerned with tripping errors on the dashboard. Generic HID kits will not work on this car, especially in the angel eye areas.

I'll code them out. I've already coded the AE since I switched to LED (didn't want those flashes on startup).

Knowing how to code your E90 FTW!

cole92 · 10-11-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by turbocomppro

I don't see how changing the AE bulbs would be illegal. I'll still have the original halogen main beam bulbs, I'm not changing those.

Besides, I'm in China. You don't get tickets here for lights. Hehehe

Lucky!

fdriller9 · 10-11-2011, 02:11 PM

Yea also the angel eyes on my car run under 12v. Like around 7.7v or something like that. Not sure how many ballast will run on 7v. You'll need to wire it directly to a switched source in the car or wire it directly to the battery with a bosch relay triggered by a switched source.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-11-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by turbocomppro

I'll code them out. I've already coded the AE since I switched to LED (didn't want those flashes on startup).

Knowing how to code your E90 FTW!

Well thats half the battle...

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Originally Posted by *********

Yea also the angel eyes on my car run under 12v. Like around 7.7v or something like that. Not sure how many ballast will run on 7v. You'll need to wire it directly to a switched source in the car or wire it directly to the battery with a bosch relay triggered by a switched source.

That was my next point to be made.

DimSum · 10-11-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by turbocomppro

I'll code them out. I've already coded the AE since I switched to LED (didn't want those flashes on startup).

Knowing how to code your E90 FTW!

If you know how to code then you wont have issues with the HID kits. If you know how to properly code your car, then you can run the hid kits plug and play.

turbocomppro · 10-12-2011, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DimSum

If you know how to code then you wont have issues with the HID kits. If you know how to properly code your car, then you can run the hid kits plug and play.

That's awesome to know. I do know how to code 100% since I've done many other things besides disabling the bulb checks.

As for the AE running 7.7v, does that apply to all cars? I have the pretty much base model with halogen lights. I've got the Lux 5.1 in there now and don't those run at 12v? I don't believe my car has any special dimming features. Heck, it doesn't even have day time running lights. I've never noticed any dimming of the AE when I have the original bulbs in there as well. I've read people doing a hard wire DRL AE mod from the cig lighter socket. That's gotta be running 12v.

But I'll run a meter and double check... If it must be relayed, then no big. Just a few more extra wires.

DimSum · 10-12-2011, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by turbocomppro

That's awesome to know. I do know how to code 100% since I've done many other things besides disabling the bulb checks.

As for the AE running 7.7v, does that apply to all cars? I have the pretty much base model with halogen lights. I've got the Lux 5.1 in there now and don't those run at 12v? I don't believe my car has any special dimming features. Heck, it doesn't even have day time running lights. I've never noticed any dimming of the AE when I have the original bulbs in there as well. I've read people doing a hard wire DRL AE mod from the cig lighter socket. That's gotta be running 12v.

But I'll run a meter and double check... If it must be relayed, then no big. Just a few more extra wires.

Why you have to do it the hard way, you can code it to run at 12-14v all the time.

hiter202 · 10-13-2011, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DimSum

Why you have to do it the hard way, you can code it to run at 12-14v all the time.

can this be done on 2011 E92 LCI's with the BRIGHT WHITE angel eyes?

fdriller9 · 10-13-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by turbocomppro

That's awesome to know. I do know how to code 100% since I've done many other things besides disabling the bulb checks.

As for the AE running 7.7v, does that apply to all cars? I have the pretty much base model with halogen lights. I've got the Lux 5.1 in there now and don't those run at 12v? I don't believe my car has any special dimming features. Heck, it doesn't even have day time running lights. I've never noticed any dimming of the AE when I have the original bulbs in there as well. I've read people doing a hard wire DRL AE mod from the cig lighter socket. That's gotta be running 12v.

But I'll run a meter and double check... If it must be relayed, then no big. Just a few more extra wires.

LUX uses Luxdrive buck pucks as drivers for the LEDs. They accept 5v-32v DC. So they dot run on 12v as far as I know.

turbocomppro · 10-14-2011, 02:00 PM

I found that the original bulbs are 12v 10 watts. I've never seen mine changed brightness. I really don't think mine has that feature at all. But if for whatever reason it does, I will surely code it to run at "high" all the time.

But that raises another question now. The bulbs are only 10watts. The hid is 35 watts. Will my wires fry if I hook it up directly?

fdriller9 · 10-15-2011, 08:35 PM

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I found that the original bulbs are 12v 10 watts. I've never seen mine changed brightness. I really don't think mine has that feature at all. But if for whatever reasohttp://www.e90post.com/forums/multisite-style/e90post/editor/separator.gifn it does, I will surely code it to run at "high" all the time.

But that raises another question now. The bulbs are only 10watts. The hid is 35 watts. Will my wires fry if I hook it up directly?

It should be fine. It will just run hotter. The wires may heat up a bit more but nothing to be concerned about.

As for the angel eyes. Mine don't dim. They just run at 7.xx volts. That is their normal operating voltage.

I know some dim when the headlights come on, but I think has to do with PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) and not voltage changes.....not sure

turbocomppro · 10-16-2011, 12:55 PM

Here's a sneek preview of what I'm about to do... it's pretty much ready to go in. Just need to find some time to get it done. Prob this weekend. Will post a full report in the DIY once finished.

Thanks all for the reply. Really appreciated.

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DimSum · 10-16-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by turbocomppro

Here's a sneek preview of what I'm about to do... it's pretty much ready to go in. Just need to find some time to get it done. Prob this weekend. Will post a full report in the DIY once finished.

Thanks all for the reply. Really appreciated.

"Modified stock Angel Eye reflector with a H8 5000K HID bulb."
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Holy S%#! This is going to be awesome! Wow... I want to see the end result!

turbocomppro · 10-16-2011, 01:26 PM

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Holy S%#! This is going to be awesome! Wow... I want to see the end result!

You will you will... Once I get it all done I will update this post with a link.

fdriller9 · 10-20-2011, 08:22 AM

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You will you will... Once I get it all done I will update this post with a link.

Any updates?

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turbocomppro First Lieutenant 59 Rep 305 Posts Drives: 2022 M340i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: El Monte, CA iTrader: (0)	4 HID kits without relays? I plan to convert my AE and fog lights with all 35watt HID kits. Will I have any problems without using relays?
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fdriller9 Banned 253 Rep 7,089 Posts Drives: '06 AW 330xi Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North Jersey/Philly/NYC iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 330xi [6.44]	I don't think you can fit hids in the E90 LCI halogen housings for the angel eyes. Not sure about the relays.
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cole92 Second Lieutenant 5 Rep 270 Posts Drives: too much Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: SoFlo / Tri-state / Mid-Atlantic iTrader: (0)	There won't be if you buy the right ballasts. Keep in mind, you will be illegally modifying your headlights and can be ticketed, impounded, etc.
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turbocomppro First Lieutenant 59 Rep 305 Posts Drives: 2022 M340i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: El Monte, CA iTrader: (0)	I don't see how changing the AE bulbs would be illegal. I'll still have the original halogen main beam bulbs, I'm not changing those. Besides, I'm in China. You don't get tickets here for lights. Hehehe
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fdriller9 Banned 253 Rep 7,089 Posts Drives: '06 AW 330xi Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North Jersey/Philly/NYC iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 330xi [6.44]	Yea also the angel eyes on my car run under 12v. Like around 7.7v or something like that. Not sure how many ballast will run on 7v. You'll need to wire it directly to a switched source in the car or wire it directly to the battery with a bosch relay triggered by a switched source.
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turbocomppro First Lieutenant 59 Rep 305 Posts Drives: 2022 M340i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: El Monte, CA iTrader: (0)	I found that the original bulbs are 12v 10 watts. I've never seen mine changed brightness. I really don't think mine has that feature at all. But if for whatever reason it does, I will surely code it to run at "high" all the time. But that raises another question now. The bulbs are only 10watts. The hid is 35 watts. Will my wires fry if I hook it up directly?
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turbocomppro First Lieutenant 59 Rep 305 Posts Drives: 2022 M340i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: El Monte, CA iTrader: (0)	Here's a sneek preview of what I'm about to do... it's pretty much ready to go in. Just need to find some time to get it done. Prob this weekend. Will post a full report in the DIY once finished. Thanks all for the reply. Really appreciated. "Modified stock Angel Eye reflector with a H8 5000K HID bulb."
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