[DCTepper]

I am looking to wrap my brushed aluminum interior pieces in carbon fiber. I've read through countless threads and have seen two major products that most use; 3M DI-NOC vinyl or Neffy Wrap fabric. I see that PYSpeed specifically labels the vinyl for exterior use and sells fabric for the interior, yet I've seen many use vinyl for the interior. What are the major differences between the two products?Advantages and disadvantages? I've seen that the vinyl product is considerably more expensive (as much as 3x the cost over the fabric), which should also be taken into consideration.

Thank you in advance for your help!

[TroyDeJ]

do not wrap that trim! lol find some cheap wood trim to wrap. Ill trade you my wood trim for your aluminum trim if you have idrive

[DCTepper]

Originally Posted by TroyDeJ

do not wrap that trim! lol find some cheap wood trim to wrap. Ill trade you my wood trim for your aluminum trim if you have idrive

It's not in the best of shape, the previous owner was quite rough on it. It has quite a few dings and dents on the center console and front door trim pieces. I realize the aluminum is more highly sought after (was one of the reasons I bought the car I did), but I'm OCD and the imperfections are giving me a rash!

[TroyDeJ]

seriously PM me if you want to trade trims

[DCTepper]

Originally Posted by TroyDeJ

seriously PM me if you want to trade trims

I think I'd rather keep mine, I can always reverse the carbon fiber wrap later if I wanted to that way.

[TroyDeJ]

ok thats fine lol

[Cuba]

I used the fabric. It's very forgiving. First time wrapping anything and I wrapped my trim, didn't mess up once

[fdriller9]

Fabric you need to use 3M Super77 spray adhesive to glue the fabric to the trim.

Vinyl you just apply it.....it is adhesive backed.

The only other thing I can think of the is the texture. I've never felt the fabric before, but the vinyl has a texture to it. I'm sure the fabric is different.

[Ridonkulous]

I wrapped my trim with the 3M Di-Noc. It works great and has an adhesive backing. It is thin and easy to wrap around small edges. When you heat it up it will stretch a whole lot. only stretch it as much as you need to to cover a section. If it is stretched to far you will see the pattern stretched out and ugly. For the best adhesion you should sand with about 80 grit the backside of all your edges to make sure it does not lift in cold weather. You could also use CA glue to hold down the backside to prevent lifting which I did. Also make sure you keep the pattern facing the same direction for all the peices. Its expensive but works well. I bought 16 square feet and had some left over.

[Royal Flush]

This probably won't help, but here's a member from my region that did it.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ight=trim+wrap

[MalM3]

tried both

will say the fabric is a harder fit, as the material is inherently thicker, so bunching at corners is a little harder to avoid, and you will need a good spray adhesive..

The Di-noc is super slick to work with, and the result is 99,9%
But looks too "flat" compared with the fabric..

In the end i blew thm both out and went real macoy

Expensive .. yes
but the smile i have every time i get in makes it worth every penny..

obligatory self grat. shots warning..

[Royal Flush]

Originally Posted by Mallard

In the end i blew thm both out and went real macoy

Where'd you purchase yours?

[MalM3]

www.schmiedmann.com

[Wonka]

I just applied the Di-Noc on Saturday and it was simple enough for a rookie. A heat gun really makes it easy to apply.



More pics are in my sig.

[DrtyJersey]

Originally Posted by Wonka

I just applied the Di-Noc on Saturday and it was simple enough for a rookie. A heat gun really makes it easy to apply.



More pics are in my sig.

Looks nice!

[CQVD330]

Originally Posted by Ridonkulous

I wrapped my trim with the 3M Di-Noc. It works great and has an adhesive backing. It is thin and easy to wrap around small edges. When you heat it up it will stretch a whole lot. only stretch it as much as you need to to cover a section. If it is stretched to far you will see the pattern stretched out and ugly. For the best adhesion you should sand with about 80 grit the backside of all your edges to make sure it does not lift in cold weather. You could also use CA glue to hold down the backside to prevent lifting which I did. Also make sure you keep the pattern facing the same direction for all the peices. Its expensive but works well. I bought 16 square feet and had some left over.

I did mine with DI-Noc also. Like said, the heat gun is your friend. You can have the vinyl do almost anything. The only thing that`s not being said is that when exterior temperature reaches 35C+, imagine the temp inside your car. That is when the edges start to shrink, bubbles start to pop out, tight corners that looked perfect do not anymore, etc. Yes you can fix it all over again with your heat gun (fixed mine 3X this summer) but eventually, unless, i guess , if you use proper adhesive spray product, it will have to be fix again. I like the texture of my brushed titanium but the pain in the b.... it gives . I am about to reverse everything or buy the adhesive and try the long shot. Not sure thow you can reverse if you use adhesive super77 and go back to full super oem space gray plastic

[dangeris]

I've worked with both the Di-Noc vinyl, fabric and real CF. Real CF is the way to go but you have to haveexperience with it and have the propper tools to work with it and when you "seal" it with the resin, be sure to be outside or in a well ventialted area.

CQVD330 - yes you can reverse the process. through trial and error, I've found out when working with the fabric, super77 isn't the best adhesive spray to use, rather use the 3M Hi Strength 90 spray. COmes out almost like a spider web. IF you do decide to take off the old adhesive, you can use WD-40 and that will actuall dissolve/remove the super77 residue. Good Luck

[Ridonkulous]

CQVD330- You do not need to put any adhesive on the panels themselves. The Di-noc has adhesive on it. You only need glue to hold the backside edges in place so they dont lift. For this purpose CA glue (Cyanoacrylate-available at hobby stores) works better than anything else. It holds better than anything else and is easy to work with and makes little mess. If you dont want to mess with any glue then sand the backside of the edges so the Di-noc has more grip than smooth plasitc. If you dont like the Di-noc then you can just heat it up and peel it off easily.

[thetedderbear]

Sorry to jack the thread but where did you get your steering wheel trim Mallard? I hate the chrome stock and don't want an M logo.

[LuxAngelEyes]

3m's Scotchprint 1080 is 100% better then the Di-Noc. it is thinner, easier to work with, much more forgiving, and easier to stretch and wrap.

You can buy the Scotchprint on e-bay or other places.

[DCTepper]

Originally Posted by LuxAngelEyes

3m's Scotchprint 1080 is 100% better then the Di-Noc. it is thinner, easier to work with, much more forgiving, and easier to stretch and wrap.

You can buy the Scotchprint on e-bay or other places.

I see they describe the Scotchprint 1080 product as being more 'glossy' than Di-Noc, which more of a 'matte' finish. I am assuming the fabric would be the most 'matte' of the three.

So far I can see the advantages of both vinyl and fabric. Vinyl appears to be thinner and easier to wrap around corners/tight places and is more easily removed if necessary, although it is more costly than fabric (as much as 3x the price). Fabric, on the other hand, I've been told is easier to work with for noobs like me and considerably less expensive.

There are so many pictures of the various products used in different applications and lighting, it's sometimes difficult to tell them apart!