going to the dealer with procede....

Barat · 05-10-2007, 08:58 AM

I'm going to the dealer next week for an oil change and progman update should I : leave the car as is, remove procede all together, use the bypass plug to bypass it ?

I'm not really worried because they are so clueless...but what do u guys suggest?

thx

S4to335 · 05-10-2007, 09:02 AM

I would remove it..and reinstall when you get the car back. You dont want them notating on your record that you have modified your car in this manner. I could just see them saying the reason why your fuel pump went was because of the proceded/aa (or whatever). Even though it had nothing to do with the failure. BTW, I use to be a service advisor at a Porsche/Audi dealership.

Carnage · 05-10-2007, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by S4to335

I would remove it..and reinstall when you get the car back. You dont want them notating on your record that you have modified your car in this manner. I could just see them saying the reason why your fuel pump went was because of the proceded/aa (or whatever). Even though it had nothing to do with the failure. BTW, I use to be a service advisor at a Porsche/Audi dealership.

+1. Remove it, don't give them any current or future excuses to deny warranty work.

BoostedBMW · 05-10-2007, 09:20 AM

Better to be safe then sorry, I would just remove it.

imsambeen · 05-10-2007, 12:07 PM

Most likely they will test drive it, and when they do they will know you did something to your car.
Remove it and be safe.

jon@themshop · 05-10-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by S4to335

I would remove it..and reinstall when you get the car back. You dont want them notating on your record that you have modified your car in this manner. I could just see them saying the reason why your fuel pump went was because of the proceded/aa (or whatever). Even though it had nothing to do with the failure. BTW, I use to be a service advisor at a Porsche/Audi dealership.

+1

I use to be a BMW technician and at times the technician won't care what you did to the vehicle performance wise unless there's a connection with a warranty complaint. Now if he wants to be an ass he can note down whatever you did to the car.

Fubarysky Jr. · 05-10-2007, 01:04 PM

Unless he has a reason to pull off the covers and remove the engine computer cover, he'll never know its in there (assuming you use the bypass plugs). IMO those guys do so many oil changes a day they just want 'tear' through them.

Terry335 · 05-10-2007, 01:07 PM

So Shiv is suggesting you lie to the dealer about running a Procede???

Driver72 · 05-10-2007, 01:10 PM

What's the "program update" you are having done?

Why bother going to the dealer for the oil change?
You'll spend more time removing the PROcede and putting it back in than you will just changing the oil yourself.
Did my oil change on the BMW in about 20 minutes, it's cake!

Terry335 · 05-10-2007, 01:12 PM

Does BMW get mad if you do it on your own? I guess just keep the receipts?

NPDAN · 05-10-2007, 01:20 PM

I wouldnt take the chance...

TahoeOG · 05-10-2007, 01:26 PM

i had this same question. I think i'm going to remove it, but the thing is, if i remove it, what about those little black rubber tube things. YOu know the one one you had to unite? (not in the cpu area)... Anyway DAMn i'm going to have to unistall that. And then reinstall... Oh well my oil change isn't untill another 10 thousand miles

TahoeOG · 05-10-2007, 01:27 PM

i know they do so many oil changes they will most likely over look it. But also their is that thing that connect to ground and if they see it, they will wonder what that is for... Also as stated above, u don't want them blaming engine mods on any future problems if you encounter any.

scottp999 · 05-10-2007, 01:42 PM

So much easier to just do your own oil change.

NaViT · 05-10-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NPDAN

I wouldnt take the chance...

yea me neither F%#$ that

DrDomer · 05-10-2007, 01:49 PM

Terry... Did you tell your stealership you installed your TT or Xede or whatever? You must really not like Shiv...

Driver72 · 05-10-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

Does BMW get mad if you do it on your own? I guess just keep the receipts?

Exactly, I just go to the parts department and purchase the oil filter and with that and the oil receipts as proof.
I also keep a log in the maintainence book.
There's no rule you HAVE to take your car in to a dealer to change the oil.

It's the simplest car to change oil on, you don't even need to jack the car up.
I just drive it up on a couple pieces of 2 x 10 pieces of wood to give me a touch more room to reach my arm under the car and remove the drain plug.

Terry335 · 05-10-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DrDomer

Terry... Did you tell your stealership you installed your TT or Xede or whatever? You must really not like Shiv...

I haven't been in yet, but won’t make an effort to hide it or deny it if asked.

I'm not a lawyer but if I were I'd suggest Shiv include a warning on the interceptor box saying "*** Warning: Installing this device may void your factory warranty". It sounds like he is condoning people remove the device before they go in which as the vendor makes him complicit in fraud.

lawdude · 05-10-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

I haven't been in yet, but won’t make an effort to hide it or deny it if asked.

I'm not a lawyer but if I were I'd suggest Shiv include a warning on the interceptor box saying "*** Warning: Installing this device may void your factory warranty". It sounds like he is condoning people remove the device before they go in which as the vendor makes him complicit in fraud.

Hey Terry, do we laugh at this one or are you still taking a comedy break?

Terry335 · 05-10-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lawdude

Hey Terry, do we laugh at this one or are you still taking a comedy break?

No commedy here, but I'm working on new material.

If you were a lawyer, how would you suggest he handle the situation?

TahoeOG · 05-10-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

I haven't been in yet, but won’t make an effort to hide it or deny it if asked.

I'm not a lawyer but if I were I'd suggest Shiv include a warning on the interceptor box saying "*** Warning: Installing this device may void your factory warranty". It sounds like he is condoning people remove the device before they go in which as the vendor makes him complicit in fraud.

Bro have you ever ordered a procede?
"It sounds like..." <--- sounds like you're assuming buddy, and you know what happens when you ASS U ME........

If you ordered and recieved your PROcede, you would know what information it gives when you open up the box.....Wait i think you're the one that vishnu doesn't ship to? could be wrong

Driver72 · 05-10-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

I haven't been in yet, but won’t make an effort to hide it or deny it if asked.

I'm not a lawyer but if I were I'd suggest Shiv include a warning on the interceptor box saying "*** Warning: Installing this device may void your factory warranty". It sounds like he is condoning people remove the device before they go in which as the vendor makes him complicit in fraud.

This is a buyer beware situation.

It clearly states in the owner's manual that ANY modifications to your car COULD alter or void your car's warranty.

It is NOT necessary for vendors of aftermarket parts to state this, when you bought the car and signed the paperwork, you were accepting the FACT that aftermarket modifications could alter or void your warranty.

Therefore anything you do or buy is at your own risk!

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imsambeen Black-Ops: Splinter Cell 15 Rep 130 Posts Drives: The first Vishnu 335 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Most likely they will test drive it, and when they do they will know you did something to your car. Remove it and be safe. __________________
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Terry335 Banned 96 Rep 2,587 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Socal iTrader: (0)	So Shiv is suggesting you lie to the dealer about running a Procede???
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Driver72 Brigadier General 329 Rep 4,484 Posts Drives: 335i - to new owners now. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	What's the "program update" you are having done? Why bother going to the dealer for the oil change? You'll spend more time removing the PROcede and putting it back in than you will just changing the oil yourself. Did my oil change on the BMW in about 20 minutes, it's cake!
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TahoeOG Major 83 Rep 1,208 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ iTrader: (1)	i had this same question. I think i'm going to remove it, but the thing is, if i remove it, what about those little black rubber tube things. YOu know the one one you had to unite? (not in the cpu area)... Anyway DAMn i'm going to have to unistall that. And then reinstall... Oh well my oil change isn't untill another 10 thousand miles __________________ Selling my winter setup, Hit me UP!
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TahoeOG Major 83 Rep 1,208 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ iTrader: (1)	i know they do so many oil changes they will most likely over look it. But also their is that thing that connect to ground and if they see it, they will wonder what that is for... Also as stated above, u don't want them blaming engine mods on any future problems if you encounter any. __________________ Selling my winter setup, Hit me UP!
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DrDomer Major 39 Rep 1,349 Posts Drives: 2004 330ci ZHP, 1999 Miata Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0)	Terry... Did you tell your stealership you installed your TT or Xede or whatever? You must really not like Shiv... __________________ Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves. ~Albert Einstein
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