N55 Engine Failure

picho21 · 10-09-2012, 05:22 PM

Yesterday I was driving my '11 E92 335i when suddenly its made a carcking noise and the car wouldn't respon, I gave it some gas and nothing after a little while the engine shut down and can't manage to start it up again. The car has 5000 km on the odo so it's practically new. It was towed back to the dealer's but they don't know what is wrong with the car. They say it could be a problem with the fuel but im not really sure that could be it since I always try to use the best fuel available, in my country that would be Shell VPower... has anyone here had this issue that could give me some pointers. This is really dissapointing...

I'm asking for a full refund since the fuel used is the one they recommend here, but I really would like to know if anyone has any clue as to what could've went wrong...

techwhiz · 10-09-2012, 05:25 PM

Really hard to diagnose unless you have some codes from the ECU. It literally could be anything.

picho21 · 10-09-2012, 05:37 PM

How can I get the codes? I doubt the dealer will give them to me...

SomeRandomer123 · 10-09-2012, 05:47 PM

Sounds too sudden to be HPFP. Codes would help if you could possibly acquire them!

John 070 · 10-09-2012, 06:28 PM

Since it's a 2011 with low miles, maybe the car has been sitting for 2 years?

ndog14 · 10-09-2012, 06:48 PM

N55s don't suffer massively from HPFP issues. That thread you may be thinking of, actually read it. The problem was not the HPFP.

@John_070,
I don't think it is from sitting nor being short distances and turned off (lot reorganization).

OP, when did you buy your car? What is its production date? What was the odo when you drove it off the lot?

Sara · 10-09-2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomer123

Sounds too sudden to be HPFP. Codes would help if you could possibly acquire them!

My friends fuel pump went out at 900 miles. But yeah that's crazy it would be that soon

cmyk · 10-09-2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sara504

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomer123

Sounds too sudden to be HPFP. Codes would help if you could possibly acquire them!

My friends fuel pump went out at 900 miles. But yeah that's crazy it would be that soon

I got all service receipts from my car's previous owner when I bought it (they were left in the glove box). My car's HPFP failed 6 days after delivery, with less than 200 miles on the odometer. Crazy, but not unheard of.

ndog14 · 10-09-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cmyk

I got all service receipts from my car's previous owner when I bought it (they were left in the glove box). My car's HPFP failed 6 days after delivery, with less than 200 miles on the odometer. Crazy, but not unheard of.

OP's engine is a N55, not N54.

Have you had any HPFP issues since your purchase? I'm not trying to jinx you, I'm just curious.

picho21 · 10-09-2012, 10:01 PM

I bought got the car on may this year with 10 km on the odo. The production date was January '11 so I guess it was seating at the dealer's for more than a year.

mashimarho · 10-10-2012, 06:57 AM

This is odd..

dmatre · 10-10-2012, 07:26 AM

Could be as simple as water in the gas.

I highly doubt that it's actual engine failure.

Let the dealer check it out, shouldn't be too difficult.

cmyk · 10-10-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ndog14

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Originally Posted by cmyk

I got all service receipts from my car's previous owner when I bought it (they were left in the glove box). My car's HPFP failed 6 days after delivery, with less than 200 miles on the odometer. Crazy, but not unheard of.

OP's engine is a N55, not N54.

Have you had any HPFP issues since your purchase? I'm not trying to jinx you, I'm just curious.

Yeah, realized that after I'd posted. I thought the N55s didn't have many problems with HPFP at all.

And no, no problems with the new pump after 43k miles. Still chugging along

picho21 · 10-10-2012, 10:05 AM

I spoke to the dealer today, he says the only code he got from the ECU was cylinder shut down, there seems to be a problem with the combustion, but they still don't know exactly what's wrong.

EQUANT · 10-10-2012, 11:59 AM

Timing chain? Knock on wood!

Stanleywan1211 · 10-10-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sara504

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeRandomer123

Sounds too sudden to be HPFP. Codes would help if you could possibly acquire them!

My friends fuel pump went out at 900 miles. But yeah that's crazy it would be that soon

Oh wow 800 miles?? So it should be cover by warranty rite ? I have 3k miles on it so far

N55 · 10-10-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanleywan1211

Oh wow 800 miles?? So it should be cover by warranty rite ? I have 3k miles on it so far

Yes, under warranty..

r3dbimmer89 · 10-11-2012, 10:59 AM

Probably bad fuel....low quality fuel across Central America at times.

picho21 · 10-11-2012, 06:25 PM

I finally got a call from the dealer's shop today and got terrible news. Turns out there was an injector malfunction, and this led to an excess of fuel to get into the cylinder causing the cylinder and piston head to melt and deform. Since the car has only got 5,000 km on the odo, I told them I would not accept anything but a new car or my money back...they said they would get back to tomorrow...

VMRWheels · 10-11-2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by picho21

I finally got a call from the dealer's shop today and got terrible news. Turns out there was an injector malfunction, and this led to an excess of fuel to get into the cylinder causing the cylinder and piston head to melt and deform. Since the car has only got 5,000 km on the odo, I told them I would not accept anything but a new car or my money back...they said they would get back to tomorrow...

spicytofu · 10-11-2012, 07:12 PM

I would expect no less than a new car. This is major engine damage if what you say is true. Chances are they will not repair it and replace it with a new engine or give you another car. I wish I was in his position so i can upgrade to a 335 lol

morphius909 · 10-11-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by picho21

I finally got a call from the dealer's shop today and got terrible news. Turns out there was an injector malfunction, and this led to an excess of fuel to get into the cylinder causing the cylinder and piston head to melt and deform. Since the car has only got 5,000 km on the odo, I told them I would not accept anything but a new car or my money back...they said they would get back to tomorrow...

Ouch.

Hope you get a new car!

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techwhiz Colonel 453 Rep 2,973 Posts Drives: e90 335i Sedan - Arctic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Bay Area, Ca iTrader: (4)	Really hard to diagnose unless you have some codes from the ECU. It literally could be anything.
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SomeRandomer123 Colonel 307 Rep 2,612 Posts Drives: F30 328i Luxury - Sport Auto Join Date: May 2011 Location: Lancashire, North West England, UK iTrader: (0)	Sounds too sudden to be HPFP. Codes would help if you could possibly acquire them! __________________ Gone: 2006 BMW E60 520d SE 6MT Gone: 2009 BMW E90-LCI 330d SE 6MT Current: 2012 F30 328i Luxury 8AT On Order: 2015 Audi A6 Avant Ultra, Black Edition (sorry!)
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John 070 Lieutenant General 1705 Rep 14,829 Posts Drives: 335i cpe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ZSP/ZPP/ZCW iTrader: (0)	Since it's a 2011 with low miles, maybe the car has been sitting for 2 years?
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ndog14 Banned 52 Rep 1,746 Posts Drives: E90 328xi 6MT Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pittsburgh, PA iTrader: (0)	N55s don't suffer massively from HPFP issues. That thread you may be thinking of, actually read it. The problem was not the HPFP. @John_070, I don't think it is from sitting nor being short distances and turned off (lot reorganization). OP, when did you buy your car? What is its production date? What was the odo when you drove it off the lot? Last edited by ndog14; 10-09-2012 at 06:56 PM..
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picho21 New Member 1 Rep 24 Posts Drives: 2012 F25 X3 30d, 2011 E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Guatemala iTrader: (0) Garage List 2002 E46 330i [0.00] 2011 BMW E92 335i [0.00] 2012 BMW F25 X3 30d [0.00]	I bought got the car on may this year with 10 km on the odo. The production date was January '11 so I guess it was seating at the dealer's for more than a year.
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dmatre Captain 665 Rep 740 Posts Drives: 2011 328i Sedan Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Carolinas iTrader: (0)	Could be as simple as water in the gas. I highly doubt that it's actual engine failure. Let the dealer check it out, shouldn't be too difficult.
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spicytofu Fungineer 10 Rep 230 Posts Drives: '11 E92 Join Date: May 2012 Location: DC/MD/S.FL iTrader: (1)	I would expect no less than a new car. This is major engine damage if what you say is true. Chances are they will not repair it and replace it with a new engine or give you another car. I wish I was in his position so i can upgrade to a 335 lol
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