Question out to the guys with a build from Aug 2012 to current

Spikey · 03-27-2013, 07:10 AM

Just curious, looking at my details on bmwvin it says my car should have an N20 engine... reading up on it, an N20 should have an electric boost solenoid on top of the turbo but I do not see one on mine...

(pics will be inserted)

just curious.. do the rest of the N20 (328) guys have an N20 or an N26? is there any way to officially confirm what it should have...

either i've got an N26.. or I'm blind...

Sephanite · 03-27-2013, 07:27 AM

well i thought i had an N20. If u can give me the difference, i can go have a look. remember the AUS engines can be slightly different to that countries

Jin-ActiveMotorwerke · 03-27-2013, 07:35 AM

From my previous trainings in bmw, all F30 320 and 328 has a N20 engine. Show us some pic and I maybe able to point it out where that solenoid is.

Beemed · 03-27-2013, 08:06 AM

Have a look at http://www.burgertuning.com/instruct...20_install.pdf
page 3 pic shows n20 vs n26 (i.e. no solenoid connector)

I've got a n20 according to my bmwvin record (29th Oct 2012 build)

David328M-Sport · 03-27-2013, 03:01 PM

Since around August, it's no longer on the N20 engine. It's electronically controlled, same as N26. As fas as I understand, Australia does not get the N26 engine. It's for places like California, with very strict emission laws. You and I have N20 engines.

Spikey · 03-27-2013, 08:29 PM

Thanks for the replies so far guys...

I've updated the first post with a pic... can take more

Just not sure where to look blue circle or red circle. I'm an idiot most of the time I must admit, so user error here wouldn't be too far from fact. I'm now looking at http://www.burgertuning.com/instruct...20_install.pdf .. it appears to be around the blue circle but I don't see anything there...

David328M-Sport · 03-27-2013, 09:14 PM

Compare yours to mine:
As our photos are oriented, the old solenoid would be situated to the LEFT of the oil filler tube/cap.
Note how both of ours just has the bolt holes.
Look at the BLUE circle - just a little higher.

OCcaraholic · 03-27-2013, 09:16 PM

You are looking in the wrong spot. It's not your blue or red circle, but just below the red circle, the last item at the bottom with the 5-Pin electrical connector. That is your electronic waste gate. You can see the rod on it going to the turbo on the exhaust. Both N20 and N26 have this now. N26 has always had it and N20 started in 7/2012 production.

I live in California, but the N20 and N26 are both sold here and I am not sure how they are ordered. The N20 is considered a LEV or Low Emission Vehicle. My California F30 is the N20, LEV spec. My car is currently having the steering rack replaced, and the loaner I have has the N26 engine which is a SULEV or Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicle. The emission sticker under the hood says N20 or N26 after an emission code.

The other way to tell if you have the N26 is if there is a label under the hood that says the radiator is emission reducing. It has a catalyst on it to convert ozone to oxygen. Another way is to look at the engine number stamped on the front of the block, it will say N26 or N20 then the engine serial number.

Spikey · 03-27-2013, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David328M-Sport

Compare yours to mine:
As our photos are oriented, the old solenoid would be situated to the LEFT of the oil filler tube/cap.
Note how both of ours just has the bolt holes.
Look at the BLUE circle - just a little higher.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OCcaraholic

You are looking in the wrong spot. It's not your blue or red circle, but just below the red circle, the last item at the bottom with the 5-Pin electrical connector. That is your electronic waste gate. You can see the rod on it going to the turbo on the exhaust. Both N20 and N26 have this now. N26 has always had it and N20 started in 7/2012 production.
Another way is to look at the engine number stamped on the front of the block, it will say N26 or N20 then the engine serial number.

Thanks guys.

David, I was looking at that area and yea.. it's just the bolt holes. green circle (attached)

OCcaraholic, Thanks for the feedback too. You're talking about the one circled in orange right? (attached)

David328M-Sport · 03-27-2013, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikey

OCcaraholic, Thanks for the feedback too. You're talking about the one circled in orange right? (attached)

That is NOT the connector for the Stage 1 solenoid connection, in accordance with the BMS installation instructions. Please leave it alone. It's the updated connector.

If you haven't downloaded the PDF from BMS, best to do so as there are close up photos showing EXACTLY where to connect. Also the connectors won't fit the wrong sized/shaped connectors - obviously.

If you see the bolt holes as per my photo, then move onto the next connector on the other side of the engine.

Spikey · 03-28-2013, 01:05 AM

Yea didn't think so... was looking through the pdf and got curious trying to match up the pictures lol

ilium007 · 03-28-2013, 09:25 PM

My N20 has the boost solenoid as shown in the last pics.

03-27-2013, 07:10 AM	#1
Spikey Captain 64 Rep 960 Posts Drives: erratically Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: around town~ iTrader: (0)	Question out to the guys with a build from Aug 2012 to current Just curious, looking at my details on bmwvin it says my car should have an N20 engine... reading up on it, an N20 should have an electric boost solenoid on top of the turbo but I do not see one on mine... (pics will be inserted) just curious.. do the rest of the N20 (328) guys have an N20 or an N26? is there any way to officially confirm what it should have... either i've got an N26.. or I'm blind... Attached Images Last edited by Spikey; 03-27-2013 at 08:33 PM..
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03-27-2013, 07:27 AM	#2
Sephanite Captain 57 Rep 603 Posts Drives: BMW Z4 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (0)	well i thought i had an N20. If u can give me the difference, i can go have a look. remember the AUS engines can be slightly different to that countries
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03-27-2013, 07:35 AM	#3
Jin-ActiveMotorwerke Private First Class 5 Rep 126 Posts Drives: BMW E46 330i Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (0)	From my previous trainings in bmw, all F30 320 and 328 has a N20 engine. Show us some pic and I maybe able to point it out where that solenoid is.
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03-27-2013, 08:06 AM	#4
Beemed Enlisted Member 1 Rep 39 Posts Drives: F30 328i M-sport Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Brisbane iTrader: (0)	Have a look at http://www.burgertuning.com/instruct...20_install.pdf page 3 pic shows n20 vs n26 (i.e. no solenoid connector) I've got a n20 according to my bmwvin record (29th Oct 2012 build) Last edited by Beemed; 03-27-2013 at 08:08 AM.. Reason: page 3 rather than 4
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David328M-Sport Brigadier General 101 Rep 3,566 Posts Drives: F30 M-Sport 328i Estoril Blue Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Melbourne Australia iTrader: (0)	Since around August, it's no longer on the N20 engine. It's electronically controlled, same as N26. As fas as I understand, Australia does not get the N26 engine. It's for places like California, with very strict emission laws. You and I have N20 engines. __________________ 328i M-Sport, Estoril Blue, Carbon XP 35 Tint, front heated seats, black Dakota, Sports Suspension, Anthracite Headliner, HUD, Pro Nav, Sunroof, hk 600w, Bi-Xenon, 19" 403M wheels, Reversing Camera, DAB+, Xenon, BT Ext Connect, MST turbo intake pipe, MST Cold Air Intake, JB4 on Map 2 with Catless DP produces awesome performance in Sport.
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03-27-2013, 08:29 PM	#6
Spikey Captain 64 Rep 960 Posts Drives: erratically Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: around town~ iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the replies so far guys... I've updated the first post with a pic... can take more Just not sure where to look blue circle or red circle. I'm an idiot most of the time I must admit, so user error here wouldn't be too far from fact. I'm now looking at http://www.burgertuning.com/instruct...20_install.pdf .. it appears to be around the blue circle but I don't see anything there...
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03-27-2013, 09:14 PM	#7
David328M-Sport Brigadier General 101 Rep 3,566 Posts Drives: F30 M-Sport 328i Estoril Blue Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Melbourne Australia iTrader: (0)	Compare yours to mine: As our photos are oriented, the old solenoid would be situated to the LEFT of the oil filler tube/cap. Note how both of ours just has the bolt holes. Look at the BLUE circle - just a little higher. Attached Images __________________ 328i M-Sport, Estoril Blue, Carbon XP 35 Tint, front heated seats, black Dakota, Sports Suspension, Anthracite Headliner, HUD, Pro Nav, Sunroof, hk 600w, Bi-Xenon, 19" 403M wheels, Reversing Camera, DAB+, Xenon, BT Ext Connect, MST turbo intake pipe, MST Cold Air Intake, JB4 on Map 2 with Catless DP produces awesome performance in Sport. Last edited by David328M-Sport; 03-27-2013 at 09:20 PM..
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03-27-2013, 09:16 PM	#8
OCcaraholic New Member 0 Rep 24 Posts Drives: 2012 328i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (0)	You are looking in the wrong spot. It's not your blue or red circle, but just below the red circle, the last item at the bottom with the 5-Pin electrical connector. That is your electronic waste gate. You can see the rod on it going to the turbo on the exhaust. Both N20 and N26 have this now. N26 has always had it and N20 started in 7/2012 production. I live in California, but the N20 and N26 are both sold here and I am not sure how they are ordered. The N20 is considered a LEV or Low Emission Vehicle. My California F30 is the N20, LEV spec. My car is currently having the steering rack replaced, and the loaner I have has the N26 engine which is a SULEV or Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicle. The emission sticker under the hood says N20 or N26 after an emission code. The other way to tell if you have the N26 is if there is a label under the hood that says the radiator is emission reducing. It has a catalyst on it to convert ozone to oxygen. Another way is to look at the engine number stamped on the front of the block, it will say N26 or N20 then the engine serial number. __________________ 2012 328i Sport - Mineral White - Coral Red - Xenon - H/K - PDC - Surround View - BMW Assist w/ Enhanced BT - Premium Package - Fold Down Rear Seat
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03-28-2013, 01:05 AM	#11
Spikey Captain 64 Rep 960 Posts Drives: erratically Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: around town~ iTrader: (0)	Yea didn't think so... was looking through the pdf and got curious trying to match up the pictures lol
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03-28-2013, 09:25 PM	#12
ilium007 New Member 0 Rep 12 Posts Drives: BMW 320i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia iTrader: (0)	My N20 has the boost solenoid as shown in the last pics.
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