[slick101]

i thhink i'm ready to chip my car.. i dont really use all that power all the time but i'd rather have a little bit more power and not need it than not have it and needing it...... i just ordered the sstt and i stumbled accross this thread mentioning the jbstg2 keeping up with a proceed v1.47.... can somebody confirm this... if it is true the jb is only 300-400 $'s and i made a big mistake in getting the sstt?

[Boostin335]

from what I saw and read also I would go with jbs2 over the sstt

[E90ice]

i would keep the Turbo Tuner. i would never buy anything from terry. he is a clown.

[imparator4]

From what we see so far it does look like the JB2 does keep up with the Procede and it cost about 4Xs less. For the performance gains and price it looks like a no brainer. But I'm sure you'll find out soon enough that others don't feel the same way. JB is just not very popular around here.

[musc]

Originally Posted by slick101

i thhink i'm ready to chip my car.. i dont really use all that power all the time but i'd rather have a little bit more power and not need it than not have it and needing it...... i just ordered the sstt and i stumbled accross this thread mentioning the jbstg2 keeping up with a proceed v1.47.... can somebody confirm this... if it is true the jb is only 300-400 $'s and i made a big mistake in getting the sstt?

Why not just judge it for yourself? Terry has a 14-day return policy including shipping. Just get a JB S2 and try it out. If you don't think its delivering more power than the SSTT, return it with no $ lost. I believe the SSTT has a similar return policy, so if you just ordered, you may be able to return it as well. No better test than to try them both.

[A418t81]

Depends on what you are looking for. The JBS2 is faster than the SST and about as quick as the Procede while running less boost than the procede and roughly the same amount as the TT. You've got to decide which one will "blow up" <-(my e90post lingo for the day) your car, if any.

[Bubbarossa]

I would like to see a picture of a 335i that has "blown up" from one of these products (JB, TT, Vishnu, etc)? People on this board talk about it, but it's been quite while since i've seen any street car blow up except from old age!

[A418t81]

Originally Posted by Bubbarossa

I would like to see a picture of a 335i that has "blown up" from one of these products (JB, TT, Vishnu, etc)? People on this board talk about it, but it's been quite while since i've seen a any street car blow up except from old age!

I know, its a hilariously ignorant term, but thrown around here almost daily I don't think a single car has "blown up" from any of these mods, but I would certainly like video if that was the case

[tek818]

having owned a TT and driven a JBS2 335i, I'd go with the JBS2 for sure. It's by far the best non cpu-controlled device out there. JBS2 pulls soooo much harder than TT and almost as hard as a my PROcede. I was extremely impressed with the JBS2, despite all the negative things said about terry and his product.

[j|rz44]

what does terry get for his boost controller?
3-400 bux?
Good for him!

[kaji335i]

I would stay with the TT, the JB has such a small customer base I would be very skeptical about running it. Not to mention the person who made it is basically a self proclaimed tuner without any credentials.

[Mattscott]

I have the SSTT and I love it. I have not driven the JBS2 so I cant say anything. My main reason for buying SSTT is that I want my free maintainence, at 50,000 miles I'm hitting up PROceed v4? whatever is out at that time.

[Bubbarossa]

Originally Posted by Mattscott

I have the SSTT and I love it. I have not driven the JBS2 so I cant say anything. My main reason for buying SSTT is that I want my free maintainence, at 50,000 miles I'm hitting up PROceed v4? whatever is out at that time.

+1

[kaji335i]

Originally Posted by Mattscott

I have the SSTT and I love it. I have not driven the JBS2 so I cant say anything. My main reason for buying SSTT is that I want my free maintainence, at 50,000 miles I'm hitting up PROceed v4? whatever is out at that time.

Why would having a Procede cancel your free maintainence? Yes it is a more technical install/remove process, but like anything else once you do it it's as simple as anything else.

[Mattscott]

The dealership looks for any reason not to have to pay for anything. I think they would use PROceed as one

[normtrum]

Originally Posted by Mattscott

The dealership looks for any reason not to have to pay for anything. I think they would use PROceed as one

The only reason they would ever see it, or even know it was ever there, is if you left it on while having some work done on your car. And even if you did leave it on, they would have to be working on something specific under the hood. I've had my car in for routine stuff twice and left mine on both times. No worries, no questions, no problems.

[Mattscott]

The guy at my local dealership was pretty adimate about not getting the "Vishnu" he said it pushes the injectors to 92% or something. IDK he was probably making stuff up. But I'm pretty sure they would check to see if it was on there. They are theives!

[tek818]

Originally Posted by Brisk

BEWARE OF TERRY TUNER .

ROFL... how about beware of the Turbo Tuner its distributors lying about its fuel enrichment capabilities...

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by Brisk

SSTT keeps up with v1.47 PROcede aswell

juicebox isnt a very advanced product with almost no R&D on it... plus the creater is a total clown, just read the sticky on the top of the page..

SSTT is a good product which gives great performance, and is really easy to install and uninstall, and cannot be found by the dealer.

the JB has to be installed into the ECU.

BEWARE OF TERRY TUNER .


here the SSTT vs PROcede v1.47
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...0b016b39e0.htm

plus the SSTT equipped car was MT, and everyone knows the AT is a lil quicker.

Brisk, that was me in that video.
First off, I was on v1.2 PRocede then for those runs in that video.
When v1.4 was released it added 2.8 rwhp and 11 rwtq, so the current v1.4x is a bit faster then the v1.2 you see in that video.
Second, the TT did not keep up with me at all.
It got the jump in the first video, but I clearly reeled it in and started passing.
We did like 6-7 runs like that and every one ended like the others, me pulling 2+ CL on the Turbo Tuned car even from a roll.
I had about 50-60 extra pounds in my car (that's another 1/2 car length).

Lastly, the last run from a 10 mph roll, I had me and a passenger in my PROceded sedan and the Turbo Tuned coupe had just the driver.
I had probably 160 lbs more weight in my car, but still beat him by 3/4 car length and was still ever so slightly creeping away.

And it's way to early to conclude the JB2 is as fast as the PROcede v1.47
The other post (test of it this morning was also with me) however, Hotrod's car is a factory freak and ran faster than any other stock 335i at LACR and was only 1/2 car length back on a Turbo Tuned car.
So, his car is fast from the get go, add in the JB2 and that could be why it ran side by side with me with my PROcede v1.47.

Until other JB2 cars run side by side with a PROceded v1.47 car, you can't really fully conclude the JB2 is as fast. Or Hotrod runs other JB2 equipped cars to see if he pulls on them. Again, his car is just plain fast, even stock...it's like it came from the factory with an extra 10-15 hp...and seems to run cooler than normal as well.
Though it's advertised rwhp gains of 40+ is right on with what I got on my PROcede v1.4 (+47 rwhp) so it could be close and the outcome can easily be determined by how strong each individual car runs.
I've also heard of TT cars gaining 35-40 rwhp.
I'm sure my coupe will get a bit stronger too, as it only had 1600 miles on her during these runs, and in my experience engines continue to loosen up and gain a bit more power for the first 3-4K miles at least.


To the OP.
I also would not get the JB2
Two reasons:
1. Tuned by a completely inexperienced "tuner" on a computer made with parts he got from Radio Shack to start with
2. The attitude the maker of the JB2 had with all of us and especially Shiv at Vishnu that got him banned from this site was not professional, cool, or by any means acceptable. You would not support ANY "business" who treated people like that.
Though the rumor is, of course and to no surprise, he's been an "angel" now that he wants your business and money.


Stick with the Turbo Tuner if you don't want or feel you need all the power or upgrades of the PROcede. I think it and the JB2 are within 5 hp and 5 tq of each other anyway.
If you have a strong running 335i with the Turbo Tuner you could nearly keep up with a 335i that has PROcede v1.47 that might not be running quite as strong.

[itsbrokeagain]

wow there are still people out there looking to buy a JB? geez some of you need

[BoostedBMW]

I can't believe that some people see nothing wrong with just raising boost and letting the stock ECU handle it. It just seems retarded to me. Why don't you just look into getting a manual boost controller then? It would save you even more money if you don't feel the need to have actual tuning with boost/fuel/timing tables.

BTW, it was only a few months ago that Terry was posting MANY questions on this forum that I would not want my own tuner asking. I give him credit for what he has done, but I would never even want him to tune my golf cart due to his lack of experience. He was someone that was messing around with his own car with resistors as a DIY project and now people are actually paying for his products. I guess there is an ass for every seat out there though.

[Mr. 5]

Originally Posted by kaji335i

I would stay with the TT, the JB has such a small customer base I would be very skeptical about running it. Not to mention the person who made it is basically a self proclaimed tuner without any credentials.

So are you saying that if he had more customers then his product would be better? This is a ridiculous statement.

There are more people that own Hondas than people that own Ferraris, so by your analogy, Ferraris aren't as good as Hondas because Ferrari has less customers.