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      11-30-2005, 12:59 PM   #1
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next gen G35 vs the redesigned e90?

wat do u guys think on this aspect? If you look closely it seems that the current g35 overtook the 05' 330i in most car mags, but came in 2nd to the e90 330i this year. How do u think things will be between the competitors when the next generation G sedan and G coupe are released?
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      11-30-2005, 01:06 PM   #2
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Can't really make a judgment now..But I will usually take a European made car over a Japanese one. They just feel so much different and I prefer the European feel of cars.
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I don't think the current g35 sedan ever overtook the 330i.
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I think what is so appealing about the G35 is that you get 330 performance numbers (some numbers even better) for the price of a 325. I think the reason the G was considered "better" is that you got more for your money. Now I switched from Infiniti to BMW, because of the German feel, better quality materials, resale value, and the fact that I have fun now when I drive my car. Before, driving was always a chore, now it is a sought after experience. Therefore, I think the new G will have gobs of power and many things standard that are optional on the 3 (although they all say Nissan on them...talk about an ego killer), and in the end, those people looking for a bit more value, $/HP, may be swayed to G. The car mags will love the car as the infiniti to BMW comparision will help sell magazines, but in the end, the BMW will be a more balanced car with all of the intangible factors I am now starting to appreciate. Infiniti really needs to include free scheduled maintenance if it wants to take away some BMW customers. Now that I start to talk with BMW owners in public (my relatives can't stand it), free scheduled maintenance is that icing on the cake that pushed many of them over the top and solidified the reason to pass on Mercedes, Acura, Infiniti, etc.
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      11-30-2005, 01:46 PM   #5
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I don't think the current g35 sedan ever overtook the 330i.

Some car magazines did pick it over the E46 330i. More bang for the buck.
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      11-30-2005, 01:52 PM   #6
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      11-30-2005, 02:31 PM   #7
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This type of topic always gets me fired up.
I don't see why so many people read into these reviews and comparisons. Who cares what these writers think. Advertising dollars win the comparisons anyway. Test Drive and make your own decision. I mean do you really think the Honda Civic is the "Car of the Year"? Hell, no it's not!! But they decided to give it to someone different this year. The 330 beats the G35 hands down and anyone who chooses the G35 over a BMW is purchasing with "pinching pennies" in mind and not overall performance. A G35 is a Nissan, just like a Lexus is a Toyota. But a BMW is a BMW. Owned by BMW. Nuff said. I need to take a breath now.
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I just happened to have a G35 sedan for last weekend and that car has a lot of power. I like the way the big V6 rumbles at take off and the ability to take you into triple digit zone with a blink of your eye. Passing on the freeway is no issue whatsoever. The handling on that car is too plush for my taste and drives like an large Lexus. Maybe the sports suspension option fixes that but the standard option come with 215/17 tires all around just isn't adaquet to handle all that 280hp/270lbs of torque. It was very easy to kick the rear end out if not paying attention which makes it a bit hairy to drive on streets. I dont understand why Infiniti gave it so much power but skimped on grip and handling. Thanks God it came with a load of digital traction gadgetries to keep it on the road, Traction control, vehicle dynamic control, electronic brake distribution, brake assist, and ABS are all standard equipments.

The interior looks pleasant at first sight but as soon as you settle down and play with it it felt cheap and not fitted well. 1st when you slam the trunk the rear plastic panel behind the passenger seat where the speakers usually sit will shake and rattle. The brushed aluminum plate near the automatic shifter slides around when you nudge it with your finger. The rubber panel above the Infiniti clock isn't flush with rest of the dash. The side storage bin on the driver door is very deep and you can't see what you place inside of it unless you pull on the cheap KIA-like plastic panel (deform form it a bit) to take a look inside. The stereo come with Sirius but still uses 1970 LED display that doesn't scroll the entire song name and the speakers blow. The only music sounds ok on it is RAP which isn't saying much. I can go on with the interior.... but if you look at it with less scrutiny you can settle with it just fine.

The car is a bargain tho... all that power and okay interior quality. I can see why people like it. My none car freak friends all think it's excellent when they sat in it.
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Some of the comparisons between the G35 and E46 were out of wack. I saw 3 comparisions, 325 vs G35 , 330xi vs G35x, and 330i vs G35.
The 330i "lost" the comparison due to price and price alone. Asian brand are notorious for pricing between their competitor models. G35 is squarely between the E46 325 and 330. Acura RL is between 530 and 550. etc etc.

BTW..I don't even consider the G35 coupe similiar. The G35 coupe shares almost nothing with the G35 sedan. Nissan just dressed up the 350z, added an Infiniti badge and called it the G35 coupe.
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Originally Posted by jmcphillips1
This type of topic always gets me fired up.
I don't see why so many people read into these reviews and comparisons. Who cares what these writers think. Advertising dollars win the comparisons anyway. Test Drive and make your own decision. I mean do you really think the Honda Civic is the "Car of the Year"? Hell, no it's not!! But they decided to give it to someone different this year. The 330 beats the G35 hands down and anyone who chooses the G35 over a BMW is purchasing with "pinching pennies" in mind and not overall performance. A G35 is a Nissan, just like a Lexus is a Toyota. But a BMW is a BMW. Owned by BMW. Nuff said. I need to take a breath now.

Well said. 100% truth.
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Well said. 100% truth.
I dont 100% agree with that. Someone who buys a 330i over a M3 is buying a 3 series on a pinched budget? When does this comparsion ends?
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I agree with jmc. Come on now, kids - reviews are just reviews. Most are stupid and/or biased.

Look at Car & Driver's car of the year for the past 10 years. Then come back and talk about reviews.
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I dont 100% agree with that. Someone who buys a 330i over a M3 is buying a 3 series on a pinched budget? When does this comparsion ends?
It is still a BMW though. Every person here would own a M3 over a 325 or 330 is price were no object. My point about that is that if a person buys a G35 over a BMW it is because of the money. The BMW is a better performance car than the G35. That is not an opinion, that is a fact. The numbers don't lie.
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I can't wait to see how the next gen G35 will be. I'm sure it'll give the 330i some good competition. I'm thinking the reviews will be 330i and G35 very close for 1st place. 330i will most likely always be 1st. IS350 will always be 3rd.

I heard the G35 coupe will unveiled at Detroit and G35 sedan at New York, or vice versa. Might just be only New York.
Nissan's VQ V6 is one of the best V6 engine in the world.

G35 coupe shares almost nothing with the sedan counterpart? They share almost everything. G35 sedan/coupe, Z, and FX share the same front midship platform. Same V6 engine, except for the FX45. Similar exhaust. G35 sedan and coupe shares the same transmissions, similar interior.
No, Nissan didn't dress up the Z and add an Infiniti badge and called it the G35 coupe. The 350Z is the Fairlady Z and the G35 is the Nissan Skyline 350GT.
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It is still a BMW though. Every person here would own a M3 over a 325 or 330 is price were no object. My point about that is that if a person buys a G35 over a BMW it is because of the money. The BMW is a better performance car than the G35. That is not an opinion, that is a fact. The numbers don't lie.
I strongly disagree with your statement. When I was shopping for a new car I was choosing between new A4 (2.0T and 3.2), 325i and 330i, and G35 sedan (I like coupe too but I find 4 doors more practical). Test drove all cars and must say that A4 was out almost right away based on performance (I liked the interior though). That left me with e90 and g35. I picked g35 sedan with sports package over 330i (325i is as slow as a turtle in my opinion) because I liked it more, NOT because I can't afford 330i. Configured similarly the price diff is not as huge as some might think and the diff in your monthly payment (if you choose to finance it) is marginal.

I guess I'm more of a person who knows that I can afford anything I want, but choose not to flash it but rather enjoy what I like.
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I can't wait to see how the next gen G35 will be. I'm sure it'll give the 330i some good competition. I'm thinking the reviews will be 330i and G35 very close for 1st place. 330i will most likely always be 1st. IS350 will always be 3rd.

I heard the G35 coupe will unveiled at Detroit and G35 sedan at New York, or vice versa. Might just be only New York.
Nissan's VQ V6 is one of the best V6 engine in the world.

G35 coupe shares almost nothing with the sedan counterpart? They share almost everything. G35 sedan/coupe, Z, and FX share the same front midship platform. Same V6 engine, except for the FX45. Similar exhaust. G35 sedan and coupe shares the same transmissions, similar interior.
No, Nissan didn't dress up the Z and add an Infiniti badge and called it the G35 coupe. The 350Z is the Fairlady Z and the G35 is the Nissan Skyline 350GT.

Maybe so, but the E46 seadan/coupe share almost everything but the missing two doors. G35 coupe and sedan are far from it.
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It is still a BMW though. Every person here would own a M3 over a 325 or 330 is price were no object. My point about that is that if a person buys a G35 over a BMW it is because of the money. The BMW is a better performance car than the G35. That is not an opinion, that is a fact. The numbers don't lie.
Yes I would select a 4 door M3 over the 3 sedan. But will take a 3 sedan over a M3 coupe. I like having 4 doors. Also, I wouldn't want the M3 engine problems, now when they put the 8 cyl in, hopefully they make it reliable.
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It is still a BMW though. Every person here would own a M3 over a 325 or 330 is price were no object. My point about that is that if a person buys a G35 over a BMW it is because of the money. The BMW is a better performance car than the G35. That is not an opinion, that is a fact. The numbers don't lie.

I think people buy japanese due to percieved better reliablilty and incorrect assumption that it's crazy expensive to maintain a BMW

also most BMW dealerships (nice ones) are run very different than a infiniti dealership (much more like a honda,ford,GM..... dealer)
and people like to stick to what they're used to
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One thing to remember, at that time car rags were in love with that motor ... what's it the VQ? ... and gave everything that had it high marks. I almost wonder if Nissan's PR dept wasn't also throwing a lot of advertising money around as part of the Nissan "resurrection" to sway some favor.

The only car rag/show I've ever seen that really will call a POS a POS so far is Top Gear. All our shows, if it's new they've got something positive to say about it. Until it gets a few years old and the advertising money isn't around, then all of a sudden the real review comes out.
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lolz !Going off topic!
I like the gift wrapping Nik!,
reminds me of the Lexus commercial, cute
...seem to indicate we have alot to be thkful this xmas! yes indeed ! Im blesssed to have a E90 this holiday season w/ a good set of Pilots Alpins ready for my White Christmas
Back to you bimmer boys!
Thanks. All of the BMWs at Vista have red bows on them. I was disappointed when I found out they don't actually give you the bow with the car. lol, just kidding.
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Maybe so, but the E46 seadan/coupe share almost everything but the missing two doors. G35 coupe and sedan are far from it.
same with the g35 coupe and sedan. they use the same motor, tranny, interior, headlight, similar suspension/ brakes, ect. tell me whats different?
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