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      11-06-2013, 07:58 AM   #1
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What wax (method) to use for someone who only waxes once a year??

Please don't judge me, lol, my time is tight with 2 young kiddos . Thanks.
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      11-06-2013, 10:24 AM   #2
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In all honesty, go down the sealant route, a wax will never stand up to more than a few months unless its a garage queen.

There are some very easy to use great products out there (although I'm not sure 100% what is available your side of the water).

GTechniq do some great products as do a few others. Wolfgang fusion gets good reports I hear and is available over there. Be interesting to see what others comment on.
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      11-06-2013, 11:11 AM   #3
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Thanks! Is Zaino also another example of sealants? Sadly, she is often a garage queen but things will be different for 2014

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Yes, I forgot Zaino, a great product . A few layers of Z2 or Z5 will see you looking good for a decent period of time. Topping up with Z8 from time to time (10 mins to whizz around the car) will add to the longevity too.
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      11-07-2013, 11:24 PM   #6
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Well, Zymol is a Caranauba wax. I hear that's the real deal and looks great; however, they don't last that long. Zaino is a sealant and looks great on light colored cars. I hear on dark cars it looks like cellophane a little. Maybe in that situation I would use a Caranauba wax. I think I would do P21S or S100.

Thanks for the vote.
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      11-08-2013, 03:33 AM   #7
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P21S or S100 are great looking waxes, but have very limited longevity. If you were serious about the 'once a year' comment in the title, they're a non starter IMHO
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      11-14-2013, 05:28 AM   #8
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I know I am a bit late with this, but as you see I have just joined. As a car detailer, I would highly recommend Collinite 845. Very easy to apply and will last longer than any of the others mentioned. Make sure to put the bottle in a container of hot water before starting. This will get the solution to have the viscosity of water. Apply as thin as possible and remove it as soon as it hazes or else it is a pain (elbow grease) to remove. It can be applied to all portions of your vehicle (paint, trim, windows, wheels) and does not leave a white residue.
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      11-14-2013, 07:44 AM   #9
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How does it compare to Zymol as far as color depth and gloss on dark cars. Zymol is hard to beat for that, but it doesn't last very long as mentioned.
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      11-15-2013, 10:41 PM   #10
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I have never used Zymol, but have a neighbor that does. His vehicle does look good, but for the cost and longevity, I wouldn’t switch. Collinite is $17 US for a 16 oz bottle. I have never measured but when waxing a vehicle, I’m sure that well less than half an oz is used. I have had people return to my shop, stating that insects and dirt have been washed off the vehicles after a rain.
I have found it is one of the glossiest waxes on the market and that dark vehicles appear wet. As for the depth, that is a very subjective question. Some use Collinite as their base wax and then top it with something (in their opinion) to give it depth.
I have about half a dozen different waxes in my shop. Once I have depleted them, I will not purchase anything but Collinite 845 and Collinite Marque D’Elegance. My problem is that at the rate I am using Collinite compared to others, it might take a while.
I don’t want to shoot myself in the foot but, asking someone what is the best wax, is like asking, what is the best wine. I will say though, that for ease of application, longevity and appearance, Collinite would be one of, if not the best.
Remember wax is meant to be applied thin. The wax that you buff off, is wasted wax.
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      11-16-2013, 10:41 AM   #11
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Collonite 845 - it goes on easy and comes off easy.
I've gotten almost 6 months of water beading when there's no rain. It's amazing how fast rain mixed with road dirt will shorten the durability of the all wax coatings, but Collinite still blows the others away in durability - I even use it on my boat with great results.

I've tried Zymol, but it was a real pain to get off and left splotching light and dark areas on a black car I had at that time - granted I was doing it by hand, maybe a machine application would have helped, but I don't trust myself with a buffer, especially on black.
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      11-16-2013, 10:53 AM   #12
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After all the great talk of Collinite's 845, I'm going to give it a try. It sounds like the only way to go.
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Don’t be afraid of machine polishers, as long as you are using the proper pad. You can pick up a Griots 3” polisher for around $100. Autogeek has a special on for $110, polisher and kit.

Anyone using Collinite (properly) will be converted. As I mentioned already, it can be used on all portions of your vehicle.

On another note, when washing your vehicle, the two bucket method is a must. Also pick up a leaf blower for drying and getting water out of the crevasses. You not only will save the dreaded drips as you drive away, but also will not scratch your paint.
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      11-16-2013, 05:52 PM   #14
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Just a quick foot note pertaining to my “Don’t be afraid of machine polishers”. I should have stated “Don’t be afraid of DA or Orbital machine polishers”. Leave the rotary polishers to the professionals.
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Collonite 845 - it goes on easy and comes off easy.
I've gotten almost 6 months of water beading when there's no rain. It's amazing how fast rain mixed with road dirt will shorten the durability of the all wax coatings, but Collinite still blows the others away in durability - I even use it on my boat with great results.

I've tried Zymol, but it was a real pain to get off and left splotching light and dark areas on a black car I had at that time - granted I was doing it by hand, maybe a machine application would have helped, but I don't trust myself with a buffer, especially on black.
Why the 845 over the 915? So this is a Caranabu wax and not a sealant like Zaino?
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Why the 845 over the 915? So this is a Caranabu wax and not a sealant like Zaino?
My friend gave me a bottle of the 845 and I liked it so I stuck with it. I don't mess with success.
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My friend gave me a bottle of the 845 and I liked it so I stuck with it. I don't mess with success.
Haha. Thanks. Fair nough. If I didn't mess with success I would still be driving my old practical and functional Honda Accord.
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With the 915 being a paste wax, I have found it to be a bit more finicky when applying and removing. The durability of sealants is debatable, whereas Collinite's is not.
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With the 915 being a paste wax, I have found it to be a bit more finicky when applying and removing. The durability of sealants is debatable, whereas Collinite's is not.
Thanks Mike. Good feedback. So you opt for the 845 over the 915.

Seems like Collinite is the way to go :-). Thanks guys.

My car beads up really well now with my wash and wax, detailer and occasional spray on wax (don't kill me). Any advice on what I should do to prep the vehicle before applying Colinite?
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Any advice on what I should do to prep the vehicle before applying Colinite?
Clay bar - any prepackaged set-up will do, those are all non abrasive. Just make sure you do it in the shade and use plenty of detail spray.
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+1 for what Chili Palmer said. Everyone should clay their car at least once a year. To see how much contamination that is on your paint, the baggie test can be a real eye opener. For those wondering, after washing your car put your hand inside a plastic bag and feel the paint on your vehicle. It should feel perfectly smooth as compared to a sheet of sand paper. To entice someone to bring me their vehicle I get them to perform the baggie test.

If you want to take your elimination of contamination to the next level, try a product like IronX. It will remove embedded brake dust. It exists on all vehicles, but most visible on lighter colors. Next time you see a white vehicle, check for small rust spots. This is embedded brake dust starting to rust. IronX or such products dissolve this.

On the Collinite subject. To eliminate the dreaded BMW brake dust, clay your wheels and apply two coats of Collinite. As I’ve said before, you will be able to use a garden hose or waterless wash solution, to remove it.
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Wax lasts longer depending on what you wash your car with, you should wash it yourself with a meguairs gold or similar quality, car wash places use cheaper soap that will strip your wax right off, if you use dawn to wash your car, you can plan on most of the wax coming right off. I use Wolfgang Fusion wax, but it doesnt last long, but looks great, so I wax it every month. You can also use a spray polish by wolfgang to go on after every wash, takes about 30 min to do whole car to renew wax between waxings.

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