Why isn't the selected gear displayed on the dash for manual gearboxes?

E90F30er · 02-11-2014, 01:38 PM

Is it as you can tell which gear you are in for manuals (position of gear lever) whereas for automatics it's slightly harder?

Jamie_E92 · 02-11-2014, 01:43 PM

Basically.

shadow191 · 02-11-2014, 01:47 PM

Auto has a TCM which knows what gear you're in, not sure there's the equivalent on a manual transmission to send info to display.

Jamie_E92 · 02-11-2014, 01:50 PM

^ There must be as there's an optimum shift indicator on ED cars which tell you to shift up or down

All Taken · 02-11-2014, 01:54 PM

This can be coded quite easily and is active in some markets.

makkan00 · 02-11-2014, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by All Taken

This can be coded quite easily and is active in some markets.

Enlighten us

AFAIK, its few limited cars which can have it coded. Majority are exclusions.

Question to OP, why would you like to know what gear are you in?
Surely you are changing it and not the passenger.

Phil325i · 02-11-2014, 02:07 PM

I turned mine off! I think it's press and hold the button on the end of the left hand upper stalk if I recall...

All Taken · 02-11-2014, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by makkan00

Enlighten us

AFAIK, its few limited cars which can have it coded. Majority are exclusions.

Question to OP, why would you like to know what gear are you in?
Surely you are changing it and not the passenger.

Shift indication can be coded but actual gear can't is what I meant to say, the gearbox on a manual doesn't have individual sensors for each gear. Enlighten me if I'm wrong.

shadow191 · 02-11-2014, 02:53 PM

Isn't shift indication based on rpm?

ukbeemerboy · 02-11-2014, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by All Taken

Shift indication can be coded but actual gear can't is what I meant to say, the gearbox on a manual doesn't have individual sensors for each gear. Enlighten me if I'm wrong.

That's right, although the car obviously knows what gears it's in to suggest its next shift either up or down, which was part of the efficient dynamics.

ukbeemerboy · 02-11-2014, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by shadow191

Isn't shift indication based on rpm?

Yes plus engine load and throttle position....

All Taken · 02-11-2014, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ukbeemerboy

That's right, although the car obviously knows what gears it's in to suggest its next shift either up or down, which was part of the efficient dynamics.

Does it actually know which gear though or does it suggest by RPM?

ukbeemerboy · 02-11-2014, 03:00 PM

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Does it actually know which gear though or does it suggest by RPM?

That's a good point, it's probably worked out by RPM in relation to the speed your doing.

crypticc · 02-11-2014, 03:17 PM

It knows. arrow up or down as needed. E.g. 5^

Can be coded on most cars. I have may 07 which is only a while i think after ED was launched on the smaller engines

All Taken · 02-11-2014, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by crypticc

It knows. arrow up or down as needed. E.g. 5^

Can be coded on most cars. I have may 07 which is only a while i think after ED was launched on the smaller engines

Really? I only have arrow up or down but no number. So shift number can be coded?

ukbeemerboy · 02-11-2014, 04:07 PM

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Really? I only have arrow up or down but no number. So shift number can be coded?

We have it on our R56 Mini Cooper and it gives the arrow and the gear number your currently in.

AdamC · 02-11-2014, 04:12 PM

Mine gives me the gear number too. 2007 e92 320d.

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