In all honesty kinda disappointed in payment structure

[LSM]

So i drive a M6 got a smokin deal in December on a 2014 M6 Coupe. Got 15k off list. After seeing these M4 prices/residuals I figured out a payment on a 76k MSRP M4 with 3500 down is only like 300 less than im paying now and with the 3500 down that eliminates all payment savings for 1 year anyway...What do you guys think? Im rethinking bc Id rather have a M6 truthfully then go with an M4 for basically the same money imo

[aus]

It's NEVER a good idea to buy when an M3/M4 come out.
The M6/M5 got killed in all the magazines and in less than a year, BMW couldn't move them anymore, so the BIG discounts started to roll in.

I'd keep the M6 another year and reassess the M4 then.

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[LSM]

Originally Posted by aus

It's NEVER a good idea to buy when an M3/M4 come out.
The M6/M5 got killed in all the magazines and in less than a year, BMW couldn't move them anymore, so the BIG discounts started to roll in.

I'd keep the M6 another year and reassess the M4 then.

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Yea then BMW changed them for MY2014 fixed the airbox did something with the steering supposedly and they seem to be doing better in the comparison tests and great idea Im sticking with what I have

[Brosef]

as much as I'd like to believe that I would prefer an M3/4 over an M6, because it will certainly be more thrilling to drive, if you handed me the keys to either one, I'd probably pick the M6. that said, $300 per month is still a significantly higher payment by most people's standards.

[Randy M]

It's amazing the power all the mags wield in comparison tests. Corruption must be rampant in the industry.

[LSM]

Originally Posted by Brosef

as much as I'd like to believe that I would prefer an M3/4 over an M6, because it will certainly be more thrilling to drive, if you handed me the keys to either one, I'd probably pick the M6. that said, $300 per month is still a significantly higher payment by most people's standards.

I agree if it was a real 300. But if I have to put 3500 down to save 300 then it will take 12 months just to break even by then I would be out of either car so to me its the same, thats what I meant

[LSM]

Originally Posted by Rated R

It's amazing the power all the mags wield in comparison tests. Corruption must be rampant in the industry.

+1 exactly!! Theyre all over Audi's right now yet when I drive them they feel nothing like Bimmer's. Drove standard A7 back to back with 640 GC, they love the A7 to me felt much slower and handled worse...

[M Fanatic]

Are you crazy? Going from M6 to M4 is ridiculous! M4 is boy's car and M6 is men's car Joking M4 is going to have plastic everywhere and rattle all over the place. Do you track your cars all the time? If not? I wouldn't even bother.

[Powaup]

Wait and test drive the M4 then make a decision. I wouldn't rush anything and drive the M6 for now if I were you.


Kinda off topic but how come M6s take such a big hit in depreciation when looking at the used market?

[Black Gold]

I would keep the m6. I think the m6 looks better than the m4, and it actually drives really well on the street. if you don't track, keep the m6

[LSM]

Originally Posted by Powaup

Wait and test drive the M4 then make a decision. I wouldn't rush anything and drive the M6 for now if I were you.


Kinda off topic but how come M6s take such a big hit in depreciation when looking at the used market?

Think about it like this if I got 15k off list which was like 6500 below invoice, it means they had some good holiday specials but also the dealer was willing to dip into his holdback to make the deal. Right now on all 6's including M6 they have a 7500 build out credit. If you take an M6 with a MSRP of 120k for example the MSRP is 8% over invoice (9600) If you got the 9600 off + the 7500 buildout credit thats $17,100.00 off list without them even going into holdback which maybe they would. That kills resale prices. The good news for me is even with those huge discounts you can't get to my low payment bc the residual is less and rate higher than I got. My plan is to put it on swapalease.com when Im ready to move on.

[LSM]

Originally Posted by M Fanatic

Are you crazy? Going from M6 to M4 is ridiculous! M4 is boy's car and M6 is men's car Joking M4 is going to have plastic everywhere and rattle all over the place. Do you track your cars all the time? If not? I wouldn't even bother.

I don't and I had the same sentiment. My original thought was I can get M4 for like 850-900 which is a huge savings with all the performance + better handling but once I saw the residuals realized the savings wasnt what I thought would be. I agree the M4 is seen by me as a much lesser car but if the savings were what I thought I could do it, but theyre not so....

[aus]

Originally Posted by LSM

Yea then BMW changed them for MY2014 fixed the airbox did something with the steering supposedly and they seem to be doing better in the comparison tests and great idea Im sticking with what I have

Agreed. It was the steering BMW seemed to "fix" but they should fix it for all those who bought it already. I think they put what ever suspension and steering settings they did for the M6GC into the M5/M6.
I love that M6GC, but it's just too much $$$.

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[Swancoat]

Originally Posted by Rated R

It's amazing the power all the mags wield in comparison tests. Corruption must be rampant in the industry.

WTF. There is nothing to suggest corruption on the magazines whatsoever. Seriously. BMW won every competition from here to there for 20 years, and then they come out with the new M5 which disappoints, and because it doesn't 'win' you think it must be corrupt? Unreal.

As for the power the magazines wield: Not amazing at all. They test all the cars against each other and write reviews on how they stack up for consumers to read. They SHOULD have lots of power.

The only real disappointment with the magazines is their unwillingness to really criticize a car. I suppose advertising dollars has to do with that though.

[side_swip92]

Originally Posted by LSM

So i drive a M6 got a smokin deal in December on a 2014 M6 Coupe. Got 15k off list. After seeing these M4 prices/residuals I figured out a payment on a 76k MSRP M4 with 3500 down is only like 300 less than im paying now and with the 3500 down that eliminates all payment savings for 1 year anyway...What do you guys think? Im rethinking bc Id rather have a M6 truthfully then go with an M4 for basically the same money imo

how you get it for 15k off ? teach me your ways plz

[Randy M]

Originally Posted by Swancoat

and then they come out with the new M5 which disappoints, and because it doesn't 'win' you think it must be corrupt? Unreal.

Pretty sure I didn't say that lol

If your printed words can translate in sales, dollars, profit etc. corruption is a reality.

[Swancoat]

Originally Posted by Rated R

Pretty sure I didn't say that lol

If your printed words can translate in sales, dollars, profit etc. corruption is a reality.

So by that... I guess you figure M3post is corrupt?

[Carl L]

Originally Posted by LSM

So i drive a M6 got a smokin deal in December on a 2014 M6 Coupe. Got 15k off list. After seeing these M4 prices/residuals I figured out a payment on a 76k MSRP M4 with 3500 down is only like 300 less than im paying now and with the 3500 down that eliminates all payment savings for 1 year anyway...What do you guys think? Im rethinking bc Id rather have a M6 truthfully then go with an M4 for basically the same money imo

You're cross shopping a 4,300lb car with a 3,400 lb one and have said you're more into displaying a wealthy image than the performance, so definitely go with the M6. M6's have always had huge discounts as they are so overpriced compared to comparable cars like the 911 and especially the M5. Even at the same money as an M6 I'd take the M3/4 (I loved my M5 but it was ultimately larger and heavier than ideal) but everyone is different so stick with the M6 as it is what will make you happy.

[absoluteis350]

Originally Posted by Carl L

You're cross shopping a 4,300lb car with a 3,400 lb one and have said you're more into displaying a wealthy image than the performance, so definitely go with the M6. M6's have always had huge discounts as they are so overpriced compared to comparable cars like the 911 and especially the M5. Even at the same money as an M6 I'd take the M3/4 (I loved my M5 but it was ultimately larger and heavier than ideal) but everyone is different so stick with the M6 as it is what will make you happy.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Even for the same money, I would take the M4 every time. Besides the fact that I deeply dislike the 6 series look (although its much better than the hideous 1st gen), the things I value about the M4 is that its faster and lighter. I thought of getting the M5 even, but after it got clobbered on the reviews, combined with the weight of a full size sedan, I gave it a pass. One car is more performance oriented, the other is more a GT.

[Randy M]

Originally Posted by Swancoat

So by that... I guess you figure M3post is corrupt?

Perhaps...

[LSM]

Originally Posted by Carl L

You're cross shopping a 4,300lb car with a 3,400 lb one and have said you're more into displaying a wealthy image than the performance, so definitely go with the M6. M6's have always had huge discounts as they are so overpriced compared to comparable cars like the 911 and especially the M5. Even at the same money as an M6 I'd take the M3/4 (I loved my M5 but it was ultimately larger and heavier than ideal) but everyone is different so stick with the M6 as it is what will make you happy.

Yea I never said I want to display a wealthy image anywhere. I may have said I dont want my 80k M4 looking like a 40k 428 M sport, but thats the extent of what i said. Im not cross shopping I was figuring I could save quite a bit of money until my other car I ordered comes in but its just not the case at the current price points of the M4, so Im sticking with what I have. I wish the M6 weighed like 700lbs lighter believe me, I dont like that aspect at all.

[PvsNP]

Originally Posted by absoluteis350

Couldn't have said it better myself. Even for the same money, I would take the M4 every time. Besides the fact that I deeply dislike the 6 series look (although its much better than the hideous 1st gen), the things I value about the M4 is that its faster and lighter. I thought of getting the M5 even, but after it got clobbered on the reviews, combined with the weight of a full size sedan, I gave it a pass. One car is more performance oriented, the other is more a GT.

Sure you would

You are a bit misinformed as well. M6 and M5 are both faster than M4 and M3. Its just that the M3 is quicker off the line but past 60mph all the way to 200, M6 will destroy them. This has been the case in every generation of M5/M6.

There is also the muscle car feel to these cars. With the competition package, they sound like a corvette zr1 whereas M3 will sound like a leaf blower. And believe me the sound dominates in everyday driving. You can hear an m5 coming from a mile away, the same isnt true unless you spend 5 k on the new m3 and even then it will sound like a turbo japanese car not a super car. Sad but true.

Each car targets a different demographic audience. M4 is more for the young and bachelor crowd whereas M6 is more exclusive and is targeted towards an executive presence. It costs about 90% more (base pricing). If you actually sat in one and drove one, you wouldn't even attempt to compare them. I sat in an M4 and drove an M6, they are totally different cars. M4 feels like a go cart with lots of cheap plastic and small headroom, M6 is extremely high quality, more roomy, yet it will go head to head with a z06 in a 1/4 mile.