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      04-17-2014, 01:22 PM   #1
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Porsche 911 GT3 Named 2014 World Performance Car of the Year

I guess you could call it a flaming success.

Or one hot car.

Or so good that it lights itself on fire.



http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...-car-year.html
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extinguished the competition.
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      04-17-2014, 02:29 PM   #4
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[It's terrible for the owners that have been effected, but I can't resist a bad piece of humor...]

(say it with 'jazz' hands of course...) "Porsche is on f_i_r____e."
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People will forget the fires just like they did with the 458. If you can afford a GT3 you probable have a few other nice cars and bikes. These guys will live.
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I want this see this car in action against other cars on magazine track comparisons.
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People will forget the fires just like they did with the 458. If you can afford a GT3 you probable have a few other nice cars and bikes. These guys will live.
Exactly--- just like everyone jumped on the GTR bandwagon when a few cars were over launched (excessively) and the trannys went bad. When I got mine in 2009 everyone would say "aren't you worried about the tranny going bad" LOL. I modded the fuck out of it and drove the fucker like a beast; no issues.

Id much rather have a GT3 than any car BMW makes at this moment and Ill get one with the fire extinguisher LOL.
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This award has caused a fair amount of outrage on Rennlist amongst owners, etc. given the issue with the replacement engine on the 2014 GT3. Many posts about Porsche actually should have refused the award, and/or the car not even being given the award due to the faux pas at its release. There is definitely a lot of pent up angst about the whole issue which will of course still take months to resolve as the new batch of engines aren't supposed to be produced until the week of 22nd April.

Regardless, it is a tremendous car; without a doubt the best looking of the 991 variants by far IMHO. Not the incredible all-weather DD that the TT(S) is of course, but still the closest to an actual race car that we've seen from Porsche in the 991 line yet, whilst still being able to be driven daily. I'd still love to have one but am (very) concerned about residuals of the 2014's at this point in time, and frankly the new Z06, especially in the Z07 iteration, will simply blow it away on track for 66% of the cost; hence that's why I have my name of the list for one.

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This award has caused a fair amount of outrage on Rennlist amongst owners, etc. given the issue with the replacement engine on the 2014 GT3. Many posts about Porsche actually should have refused the award, and/or the car not even being given the award due to the faux pas at its release. There is definitely a lot of pent up angst about the whole issue which will of course still take months to resolve as the new batch of engines aren't supposed to be produced until the week of 22nd April.

Regardless, it is a tremendous car; without a doubt the best looking of the 991 variants by far IMHO. Not the incredible all-weather DD that the TT(S) is of course, but still the closest to an actual race car that we've seen from Porsche in the 991 line yet, whilst still being able to be driven daily. I'd still love to have one but am (very) concerned about residuals of the 2014's at this point in time, and frankly the new Z06, especially in the Z07 iteration, will simply blow it away on track for 66% of the cost; hence that's why I have my name of the list for one.

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Don't get me wrong, I like the new corvettes and I really want it to be successful, but I don't think it will blow a GT3 away on the track.
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Don't get me wrong, I like the new corvettes and I really want it to be successful, but I don't think it will blow a GT3 away on the track.
To be honest, I think it will decimate it; i.e. at least a couple of seconds/lap faster at most tracks. Regardless they are both fantastic cars. For a long term keeper I'd go with the GT3, but for outright (track worthy) performance it has to be the C7 Z06 IMHO. (Just hope the damn fluids stay cool enough in the summer).
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To be honest, I think it will decimate it; i.e. at least a couple of seconds/lap faster at most tracks. Regardless they are both fantastic cars. For a long term keeper I'd go with the GT3, but for outright (track worthy) performance it has to be the C7 Z06 IMHO. (Just hope the damn fluids stay cool enough in the summer).
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A couple of seconds is NOT "decimate"
It will be an interesting comparo tho
How about the 3800 lbs Z28 puttin down an 0.5 sec whooping against the 991GT3, on the same track, on the same day, by the same race driver (albeit a GM factory race driver AND the Z28 had R-comp tires). It seems absurd to me ...but numbers don't lie, however magazines and car manuf marketers do.
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A couple of seconds is NOT "decimate"
It will be an interesting comparo tho
How about the 3800 lbs Z28 puttin down an 0.5 sec whooping against the 991GT3, on the same track, on the same day, by the same race driver (albeit a GM factory race driver AND the Z28 had R-comp tires). It seems absurd to me ...but numbers don't lie, however magazines and car manuf marketers do.
Not sure if you follow racing, but a few seconds a lap is decimating. Red Bull would love a few tenth a lap at this point.

What magazine compared the Z28 to the GT3? It wasn't the latest Motor Trend.
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Don't get me wrong, I like the new corvettes and I really want it to be successful, but I don't think it will blow a GT3 away on the track.
To be honest, I think it will decimate it; i.e. at least a couple of seconds/lap faster at most tracks. Regardless they are both fantastic cars. For a long term keeper I'd go with the GT3, but for outright (track worthy) performance it has to be the C7 Z06 IMHO. (Just hope the damn fluids stay cool enough in the summer).
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If true, that would be rather astonishing.

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Don't get me wrong, I like the new corvettes and I really want it to be successful, but I don't think it will blow a GT3 away on the track.
To be honest, I think it will decimate it; i.e. at least a couple of seconds/lap faster at most tracks. Regardless they are both fantastic cars. For a long term keeper I'd go with the GT3, but for outright (track worthy) performance it has to be the C7 Z06 IMHO. (Just hope the damn fluids stay cool enough in the summer).
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If true, that would be rather astonishing.

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Yeah Rob you gotta be at least 10 years older or 10 years younger to get a Vette. Lol!
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Not sure if you follow racing, but a few seconds a lap is decimating. Red Bull would love a few tenth a lap at this point.

What magazine compared the Z28 to the GT3? It wasn't the latest Motor Trend.
2 seconds in F1 would be considered "decimate"
Unfortunately, for your point ...we are talking about street cars, not F1.
And 2 seconds between 2 street cars on the same track is 2 car lengths across the finish line = not "decimate" ...just beaten.

Here is the insane article about that Z28 vs. 991GT3
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2014...NEWS/140329817
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Gt3 is pretty sick tho. #regardlessOfFireHazards
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2 seconds in F1 would be considered "decimate"
Unfortunately, for your point ...we are talking about street cars, not F1.
And 2 seconds between 2 street cars on the same track is 2 car lengths across the finish line = not "decimate" ...just beaten.

Here is the insane article about that Z28 vs. 991GT3
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2014...NEWS/140329817
Since at most tracks you're going pretty fast when you cross the finish line, two seconds difference is far more than "two car lengths". Plus, even with two street cars that purport to be of a sporting nature and with similar performance 'stats', two seconds is a damn good arse kicking on a road course when tested on the same day; in the same conditions, by the same driver.

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Gt3 is pretty sick tho. #regardlessOfFireHazards
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Since at most tracks you're going pretty fast when you cross the finish line, two seconds difference is far more than "two car lengths". Plus, even with two street cars that purport to be of a sporting nature and with similar performance 'stats', two seconds is a damn good arse kicking on a road course when tested on the same day; in the same conditions, by the same driver.

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Regardless of what you want to call it ....let's just say " annihilate" to please all the trolls here.... Its just so hard to believe a 3800 lbs GM anything can put 0.5 seconds on a proper road course against a state of the art 3000 lbs 991GT3.
I call GM BS ....like that ignition starter fire recall....GM lies.
And the driver in that article happens to be GMs World Challenge Cadillac driver.
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2 seconds in F1 would be considered "decimate"
Unfortunately, for your point ...we are talking about street cars, not F1.
And 2 seconds between 2 street cars on the same track is 2 car lengths across the finish line = not "decimate" ...just beaten.

Here is the insane article about that Z28 vs. 991GT3
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2014...NEWS/140329817
2 sec is absolutely decimation.

80 mph is 117 feet per second… you must have a really, really long car.

I'm beginning to wonder if the C7 non-Z06 may set faster lap times than the GT3.
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Since at most tracks you're going pretty fast when you cross the finish line, two seconds difference is far more than "two car lengths". Plus, even with two street cars that purport to be of a sporting nature and with similar performance 'stats', two seconds is a damn good arse kicking on a road course when tested on the same day; in the same conditions, by the same driver.

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Regardless of what you want to call it ....let's just say " annihilate" to please all the trolls here.... Its just so hard to believe a 3800 lbs GM anything can put 0.5 seconds on a proper road course against a state of the art 3000 lbs 991GT3.
I call GM BS ....like that ignition starter fire recall....GM lies.
And the driver in that article happens to be GMs World Challenge Cadillac driver.
I just read the article again to make sure , but you have it backwards , the GT3 was .5 seconds faster than the Z28 . Those Trofeo R's are frigging amazing esp in a 305 square setup . The driver complained of a lot of tread squirm in the GT3 tire and again mentioned how much grip the Z28 had in the corners ( tire) . So the fact the 911 still one on inferior tires is impressive .
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Regardless of what you want to call it ....let's just say " annihilate" to please all the trolls here.... Its just so hard to believe a 3800 lbs GM anything can put 0.5 seconds on a proper road course against a state of the art 3000 lbs 991GT3.
I call GM BS ....like that ignition starter fire recall....GM lies.
And the driver in that article happens to be GMs World Challenge Cadillac driver.
Did you really use fire in an argument for the GT3! LMAO

It doesn't really matter which car is 0.5 sec ahead of the other here. The bottom line is, in terms of lap times, they're close.

Who would've thought!
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