For those of you w/ Wagner FMIC… Pretty sure its same as Mech Tuning..

Eat.Sleep.Race · 05-07-2014, 07:02 PM

So I was reading all about FMIC's etc.. and bought the Mech tuning, because they have dyno charts with high claims and IAT temps that are drastically reduced. So i buy the intercooler, fits great, looks great but seriously its the same damn thing as a Wagner Tuning FMIC that sells for like $690. I think this is like my exhaust where the part is rebranded numerous times and priced a lot differently.

Its bar and place identical to wagner tuning and I'm pretty sure it came from the same manufacturing plant…Look up the Wagner...

So heres the pics andyou decide.. And BTW if you want an awesome FMIC with lifetime warranty on welds and product go order you one of these today from Mech….

www.mechtuning.com

$499

Onto the pictures…

tova86 · 05-07-2014, 07:34 PM

I have the Wagner and those do look like identical.. good find. Is it bolt on with no modification too?

stanlalee · 05-07-2014, 07:51 PM

Welcome to many months ago lol. I was virtually 98% sure that was the case but since I have no proof I refrain from public speculation (until now). Helix outright stated the Wagner was of suspect quality (siting puddle welds, two cores welded together opposed to theirs being a true step, painted to cover flaws...other stuff I can't remember etc).
I don't point any of that out to say the Wagner is bad just to that its overpriced based on manufacturing processes alone. Its not AMS quality for the same money.

PS: the lifetime warranty is worthless. They'll just change names and be another company by the time they've been out long enough utilize it.

Eat.Sleep.Race · 05-07-2014, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tova86

I have the Wagner and those do look like identical.. good find. Is it bolt on with no modification too?

Yep. Direct fit, from my understanding it does the job and quite sure they are the same fucking thing, it outrages me people rebrand everything and sell for hundreds more..

Eat.Sleep.Race · 05-07-2014, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stanlalee

Welcome to many months ago lol. I was virtually 98% sure that was the case but since I have no proof I refrain from public speculation (until now). Helix outright stated the Wagner was of suspect quality (siting puddle welds, two cores welded together opposed to theirs being a true step, painted to cover flaws...other stuff I can't remember etc).
I don't point any of that out to say the Wagner is bad just to that its overpriced based on manufacturing processes alone. Its not AMS quality for the same money.

PS: the lifetime warranty is worthless. They'll just change names and be another company by the time they've been out long enough utilize it.

Yea i understand that, it seems to work fine, and i think it will do the job, just pisses me that wagner would lie...

stanlalee · 05-07-2014, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Eat.Sleep.Race

Yep. Direct fit, from my understanding it does the job and quite sure they are the same fucking thing, it outrages me people rebrand everything and sell for hundreds more..

That's how Chinese manufacturing works if your not REAL selective. You source Chinese production to save $$ and offer extremely reasonable prices. A year or two later same Chinese factory you sourced to manufacture YOUR product is selling your exclusive or personally designed product to 5 different people with a different cast logo. Seen this happen with countless intercoolers and exhaust products for various makes. I'm sure Wagner has not been happy since these came out. Luckily they have like four different versions and only this one has been pirated.

rdeterman · 05-07-2014, 09:03 PM

$350 is a steal

Tiago@VRSF · 05-07-2014, 09:25 PM

It actually isn't the same fin pack but they obviously copied the end tanks. We replaced one with our 7" a while back @ the shop and I compared it to a Wagner I had in stock, it's definitely not the same manufacturer.

Eat.Sleep.Race · 05-08-2014, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

It actually isn't the same fin pack but they obviously copied the end tanks. We replaced one with our 7" a while back @ the shop and I compared it to a Wagner I had in stock, it's definitely not the same manufacturer.

You ran a Mech? Did it suck, mine seems to be pretty nice

deeLow · 05-08-2014, 08:05 AM

No cutting?

Tiago@VRSF · 05-08-2014, 08:08 AM

I didn't run it, a customer ran it and replaced it with our 7".

mike@x-ph.com · 05-08-2014, 02:40 PM

Interesting

Kish2604 · 05-08-2014, 07:40 PM

Has anyone tested or have logs to show the IAT increase during a long pull through the gears?

Eat.Sleep.Race · 05-08-2014, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kish2604

Has anyone tested or have logs to show the IAT increase during a long pull through the gears?

decrease you mean? it does cool the temps down lol

gtaccord · 05-08-2014, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Eat.Sleep.Race

decrease you mean? it does cool the temps down lol

No he means increase. Even with a great intercooler iat s increase after repeated long pulls. The better the intercooler the smaller the increase.

Eat.Sleep.Race · 05-09-2014, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gtaccord

No he means increase. Even with a great intercooler iat s increase after repeated long pulls. The better the intercooler the smaller the increase.

oh ok gotcha!!

09E90utah · 05-09-2014, 10:50 PM

Did you purchase yours directly from Mech Tuning?

Eat.Sleep.Race · 05-10-2014, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 09E90utah

Did you purchase yours directly from Mech Tuning?

yes. did you?

Kish2604 · 05-11-2014, 04:29 PM

I meant increase... So still no logs hey?

09E90utah · 05-12-2014, 09:09 AM

I tried to but they said there is no way they can sell it for $350 shipped. $450 is the best they could do.

Eat.Sleep.Race · 05-12-2014, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kish2604

I meant increase... So still no logs hey?

I will have the logs soon, my buddy just got the BT cable and all the stuff to log.

THanks!

09E90utah · 05-12-2014, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Eat.Sleep.Race

yes. did you?

I tried to but they said there is no way they can sell it for $350 shipped. $450 is the best they could do.

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