M6 Gran Coupe vs Nissan GT-R (both stock)

[RPiM5]

Not a bad showing for a 4,400lbs car.

I would've posted this in the M6 section, but this side gets more action.

[Maddict3]

M6 grand coupe did ok, didn't the M5 walk the GTR?

[emkmd]

Where was this race, that location appears to be a common one.

[GB///M]

Originally Posted by emkmd

Where was this race, that location appears to be a common one.

I think it's Sweden.

[Schnell_1]

Impressive video.

Sometimes it seems like GTR's have almost almost a mythical and infallible reputation, and rightfully so to a degree; they are one of the baddest beasts period. But, I've slayed my fair share (the earlier model year the easier the kill of course). The AWD launch and high-gearing makes them monsters in 0-60 and the 1/4 mile, but from a roll they vulnerable.

The S63TU from a roll is so formidable it's scary...

[shahano]

Is that a 2015 GT-R???

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by Schnell_1

Impressive video.

Sometimes it seems like GTR's have almost almost a mythical and infallible reputation, and rightfully so to a degree; they are one of the baddest beasts period. But, I've slayed my fair share (the earlier model year the easier the kill of course). The AWD launch and high-gearing makes them monsters in 0-60 and the 1/4 mile, but from a roll they vulnerable.

The S63TU from a roll is so formidable it's scary...

Yeah I think if the M5/M6 had better traction management software, like a McLaren 12C, wider rear tires, and a lighter weight it would have more of a chance against any car from a dig. This is not to say that it isn't already very good, it's light years against the E6x generation M cars. Better traction algorithms, wider rear tires, lower vehicle weight, and perhaps even AWD drive will all be present in the next generation M5/M6, so we only have to wait another 4-5 years.

The next GTR though, forget about it. That thing is going to be scary fast not that it already isn't. Crazy rumors are floating around it's going to be 800hp from the factory and will utilized hybrid assist drive train. That means no torque lag of any kind and instantaneous acceleration. Combined with a DCT transmission, it will be a true Godzilla and every fanboy's wet dream. It may even put the new Vette Z06 to shame. Who am I kidding, it totally will. But I am sure will we start to see pricetag of 2019 GTR's for over $150k easily.

[positiveions]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

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The next GTR though, forget about it. That thing is going to be scary fast not that it already isn't. Crazy rumors are floating around it's going to be 800hp from the factory and will utilized hybrid assist drive train. That means no torque lag of any kind and instantaneous acceleration. Combined with a DCT transmission, it will be a true Godzilla and every fanboy's wet dream. It may even put the new Vette Z06 to shame. Who am I kidding, it totally will. But I am sure will we start to see pricetag of 2019 GTR's for over $150k easily.

That sounds crazy. No lag, 800 hp matted to a DCT; wow thing is going to be a beast.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by positiveions

That sounds crazy. No lag, 800 hp matted to a DCT; wow thing is going to be a beast.

Yeah the Hybrid Assist Drivetrain has pretty much been let out of the bag by Nissan, but the horsepower numbers are still very much up in the air at this point.

[shahano]

there is no way the new GT-R will be 800 hp.. It is just not possible.

[Schnell_1]

I've heard 700 HP on the new GTR. 500 HP is the new 400, 600 HP is the new 500, etc, so 700 seems plausible, especially given the recent HP wars, which will escalate to who-knows-where in a few years....

[Vic55]

After owning a "slower gtr" with stock 485 hp, Im surprised a little that the GC didnt pull a little better from the roll and its rwd platform. My GTR was not amazing over 120 mph to say the least (relative to my fleet at that time) until I did HKS, Cobb, Injector, Exhaust mods. But again this is the faster GTR in its current iteration.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Yeah I think if the M5/M6 had better traction management software, like a McLaren 12C, wider rear tires, and a lighter weight it would have more of a chance against any car from a dig...

You are right, but it's not just software! The main key for Mclaren is the mid mounted engine configuration that distribute the majority of weight to the rear axle (at take off) to have a almost perfect traction.