Can I get a feedback on the Macht Schnell X-pipe..

[MBAM3]

Hi everyone! I currently have an akrapovic slip on. I am looking for a catless x-pipe to add some hp.

I am currently looking at the MS X-pipe. Can anyone with the MS x-pipe provide me with some feedback. I want to know hp gains, sound, and overall quality.

Thanks

[AlpineE92M3]

I would just get test pipes. Yields same HP, cheaper

[Gossypiboma]

Originally Posted by AlpineE92M3

I would just get test pipes. Yields same HP, cheaper

Yields similar HP, not necessarily the same. I have never seen any dyno comparisons so there is only speculation.

[AlpineE92M3]

Originally Posted by BigBoosting

Yields similar HP, not necessarily the same. I have never seen any dyno comparisons so there is only speculation.

Yes I used the wrong word. Simlar, not the same. Thanks for correction

[Patrón]

Originally Posted by MBAM3

Hi everyone! I currently have an akrapovic slip on. I am looking for a catless x-pipe to add some hp.

I am currently looking at the MS X-pipe. Can anyone with the MS x-pipe provide me with some feedback. I want to know hp gains, sound, and overall quality.

Thanks

I do not have any dyno data to share but I bought my MS in April and absolutely love it. In my opinion, the quality is amazing. All of the welds are very clean as well as the hardware (good quality).

I have a cheap AP copy exhaust that sounded pretty darn good with the stock cats, with the
MS x pipe, it turned it into another animal completely. I've had strangers and friends compliment it. I would highly recommend purchasing it. I ran it for two days with oem tune and didn't get a check engine light. I know have an ESS tune. The back fire and burbling are bonuses.

[MBAM3]

Thanks for the info patrn! Do you feel the added hp?

[okusa]

Bang for the buck the MS track pipes and great and yield great gains. And yes, you will DEFINITELY notice a huge difference.

[Patrón]

Originally Posted by MBAM3

Thanks for the info patrn! Do you feel the added hp?

The butt dyno says yes, from some posts on here the biggest restriction is the cats. I also highly recommend an under drive pulley but would do the sw and race pipe first.

[ZEEM3R]

I had macht schnell test pipes and loved them. Great sound and power.

[MBAM3]

Originally Posted by ZEEM3R

I had macht schnell test pipes and loved them. Great sound and power.

what's the difference in power between MS Test Pipes and MS X PIPE?

[SilentAttack]

Originally Posted by MBAM3

what's the difference in power between MS Test Pipes and MS X PIPE?

X-pipe goes from the headers to the rear section cost $1K test pipes replace the primary cat cost $400

[Patrón]

Originally Posted by MBAM3

what's the difference in power between MS Test Pipes and MS X PIPE?

From info posted by vendors I would guess 20+. They are definitely much louder.

[kevin @ eas]

The Macht Schnell test pipes are going to yield a little less HP due to retaining the secondary cats. Gains are marginally less that an x-pipe though.The nice part about the x-pipe is you don't have to cut up your stock x-pipe, so that helps wehn you want to put the OE back on. Sound wise the x-pipe is going to be louder since it doesnt have secondary cats. With the Akra slip on it does sound quite nice being catless.

Gains for x-pipe I would put around 20whp +
Test pipes around 17-20whp

[dpilat8588]

Originally Posted by Patrón

I do not have any dyno data to share but I bought my MS in April and absolutely love it. In my opinion, the quality is amazing. All of the welds are very clean as well as the hardware (good quality).

I have a cheap AP copy exhaust that sounded pretty darn good with the stock cats, with the
MS x pipe, it turned it into another animal completely. I've had strangers and friends compliment it. I would highly recommend purchasing it. I ran it for two days with oem tune and didn't get a check engine light. I know have an ESS tune. The back fire and burbling are bonuses.

after installing this x-pipe, how much more burbling/popping/backfire did you notice than before? Was it louder or just more frequent?

[8k3]

I had both test pipes and their xpipe. It's definitely louder and you get much more pop and burble with the xpipe. Furthermore you don't have to cut up your exhaust. In my opinion it's a better option

[Patrón]

Originally Posted by dpilat8588

after installing this x-pipe, how much more burbling/popping/backfire did you notice than before? Was it louder or just more frequent?

I really didn't have much before with the non oem exhaust. On down shifts and deceleration , it burbles. When in s mode and highest setting, it will do it all the time in colder weather. Perhaps it's the timing advanced vs hotter weather.

Originally Posted by 8k3

I had both test pipes and their xpipe. It's definitely louder and you get much more pop and burble with the xpipe. Furthermore you don't have to cut up your exhaust. In my opinion it's a better option

I have friends w just the test pipes and it's just a little louder. Oddly enough one of the nicest systems I've heard is an xpipe system with a stock exhaust.

[rif75]

Hello Guys

I want to put this xpipe on my Gpower sk1 to get some more HP

Can you tell me about drone and noise with the oem muffler? I drive a lot on highway with the car and don't want too meuch noise and no drone...

Thanks

[kevin @ eas]

Originally Posted by rif75

Hello Guys

I want to put this xpipe on my Gpower sk1 to get some more HP

Can you tell me about drone and noise with the oem muffler? I drive a lot on highway with the car and don't want too meuch noise and no drone...

Thanks

Its not too much louder with the stock rear section. I wouldnt anticipate any drone on highway speeds. Here is video as well if you want to hear a sound clip.

[rif75]

Thank you Kevin, I saw that video and it seems ok but the drone is my principal concern so I want a customer review before to order one

[M43S7RO]

Originally Posted by rif75

Thank you Kevin, I saw that video and it seems ok but the drone is my principal concern so I want a customer review before to order one

I've got it on stock rear, zero drone. Only difference is when you get on the gas it is noticeably louder. If you're not on about >50% throttle, it sounds stock. But even on throttle, it does not drone, only becomes a little raspy.

[dpilat8588]

Originally Posted by rif75

Thank you Kevin, I saw that video and it seems ok but the drone is my principal concern so I want a customer review before to order one

I am not running the stock rear section, but I have zero drone with my Macht Schnell x pipe when cruising on the highway, as long as I am above 2K rpm...might I ask why you aren't considering an aftermarket rear section also? Check out my recent review of this x-pipe (video is included)

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1234697

[rif75]

Thanks guys, I ordered mine yesterday...

I have to stay with the oem muffler for now because of the noise...I'm driving the car in switzerland and they are very hard with this things...