2015 Charger Hellcat: the most powerful sedan in the world

[URBAN LEGEND]

2015 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat: The Most Powerful Sedan In The World! - Ignition Ep. 122

[URBAN LEGEND]

This car ends our stock roll racing supremacy. 😭

[Vic55]

and its 70k LOL

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by Vic55

and its 70k LOL

Great time to be a speed freak.

[GarbageMan]

It is a DODGE for the love of all that is holy...

[ARKONE]

Damn. 700 HP under 70k? That is freaking amazing. However, I am not a fan of the back of the car. I would dub it a poor-man's M5. Sure it has more HP, It has a cheaper interior.

[monaroCountry]

Its laughable that this Fatcat has over double the power of a Subaru and yet still gets creamed by it. Its testament to its outdated engineering and highly inferior dynamics from the so called "Street and Racing Technology". I want to like this SRT but apart from its abysmal handling it also looks exactly like a 2015 Dodge Dart.

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow...of_willow.html

2013 Audi RS7 Sportback
Time: 1:24.30
Power(PS) /Weight: 560 / 1895

2013 Mercedes CLS 63 AMG S-Model
Time: 1:24.70
Power(PS)/Weight: 585 / 1870

2014 Chevrolet SS
Time: 1:25.71
Power(PS)/Weight: 421 / 1800

2014 Subaru WRX STI
Time: 1:26.12
Power(PS)/Weight: 309 / 1545

2013 Jaguar XFR-S
Time: 1:26.49
Power(PS)/Weight: 550 / 1987

2015 Dodge Charger SRT HellCat
Time: 1:26.87
Power(PS)/Weight: 717 / 2070

[monaroCountry]

Originally Posted by Karney5

Damn. 700 HP under 70k? That is freaking amazing. However, I am not a fan of the back of the car. I would dub it a poor-man's M5. Sure it has more HP, It has a cheaper interior.

More like an expensive Dodge Dart alternative.

[RPiM5]

Urban, thanks for the post and the video. Carlos is the man!

Overall, I am impressed with the new Charger Hellcat. It truly has that muscle car DNA but with 4 doors so Carlos hits the nail on the head when he talks about hiding underneath a veil to hide the cars true performance. My mom wouldn't be able to tell the new Hellcat is anything more special than a standard 2015 Dodge Charger, which is a good thing for that sleeper status.

I don't know if any one noticed the weight and the weight distribution of the Charger Hellcat. It's still far from being anything like a true Sports Sedan. Instead I think the Charger Hellcat is in it's own category unoffically dubbed the "Muscle Car Sedan," where as the new 2015 CTS-V fits perfectly in the "Sports Sedan" category right along the M5, E63 AMG, and RS7.

With that said, stock for stock, I know that a Comp Pack M5 will lose to the Hellcat in a straightline rolling racing. However, I also know that a modified M5 could beat a stock Hellcat no problem, but a modified Hellcat will probably be making north of 800hp no problem either. So it's all subjective.

The Hellcat's straightline performance is impressive, but let's see where we are in 5 years when the next M5 is 600lbs lighter than the Charger Hellcat.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Urban, thanks for the post and the video. Carlos is the man!

Overall, I am impressed with the new Charger Hellcat. It truly has that muscle car DNA but with 4 doors so Carlos hits the nail on the head when he talks about hiding underneath a veil to hide the cars true performance. My mom wouldn't be able to tell the new Hellcat is anything more special than a standard 2015 Dodge Charger, which is a good thing for that sleeper status.

I don't know if any one noticed the weight and the weight distribution of the Charger Hellcat. It's still far from being anything like a true Sports Sedan. Instead I think the Charger Hellcat is in it's own category unoffically dubbed the "Muscle Car Sedan," where as the new 2015 CTS-V fits perfectly in the "Sports Sedan" category right along the M5, E63 AMG, and RS7.

With that said, stock for stock, I know that a Comp Pack M5 will lose to the Hellcat in a straightline rolling racing. However, I also know that a modified M5 could beat a stock Hellcat no problem, but a modified Hellcat will probably be making north of 800hp no problem either. So it's all subjective.

The Hellcat's straightline performance is impressive, but let's see where we are in 5 years when the next M5 is 600lbs lighter than the Charger Hellcat.

I thought I'd post that video for you. Cool car for sure. Won't rule Sepang or Monaco but will rule roll races and drag strip.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

I thought I'd post that video for you. Cool car for sure. Won't rule Sepang or Monaco but will rule roll races and drag strip.

Exactly, whoever thinks this thing is supposed to be a "twisty" machine needs their head checked. The car serves its purpose and it does it well- american muscle in a straight line. Its not terrible on a track but not sure if anyone would entertain a thought LOL.

[PhilT3]

It's a Dodge. 'Nuff said...

[monaroCountry]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Exactly, whoever thinks this thing is supposed to be a "twisty" machine needs their head checked. The car serves its purpose and it does it well- american muscle in a straight line. Its not terrible on a track but not sure if anyone would entertain a thought LOL.

SRT - Street and Racing Technology

The majority of racing around the world involves going around corners, the majority of streets also have corners and bends. Its terrible for a car to have over 700hp and still get thrashed by 300 and 400hp cars.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

SRT - Street and Racing Technology

The majority of racing around the world involves going around corners, the majority of streets also have corners and bends. Its terrible for a car to have over 700hp and still get thrashed by 300 and 400hp cars.

LOL I know what SRT means---- its a fancy acronym. In the Hellcat's case it stands for street and racing in a straighline type of technology with the occassional big bend turn

Suffice it to say... I wont get one

[stealth.pilot]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

Its laughable that this Fatcat has over double the power of a Subaru and yet still gets creamed by it. Its testament to its outdated engineering and highly inferior dynamics from the so called "Street and Racing Technology". I want to like this SRT but apart from its abysmal handling it also looks exactly like a 2015 Dodge Dart.

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow...of_willow.html

2013 Audi RS7 Sportback
Time: 1:24.30
Power(PS) /Weight: 560 / 1895

2013 Mercedes CLS 63 AMG S-Model
Time: 1:24.70
Power(PS)/Weight: 585 / 1870

2014 Chevrolet SS
Time: 1:25.71
Power(PS)/Weight: 421 / 1800

2014 Subaru WRX STI
Time: 1:26.12
Power(PS)/Weight: 309 / 1545

2013 Jaguar XFR-S
Time: 1:26.49
Power(PS)/Weight: 550 / 1987

2015 Dodge Charger SRT HellCat
Time: 1:26.87
Power(PS)/Weight: 717 / 2070

Agree.

Although that Subaru shames a lot of cars from more reputable brands than Dodge.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

Agree.

Although that Subaru shames a lot of cars from more reputable brands than Dodge.

This is interesting:


13. BMW M4 1:23.73 randy pobst

14. Lexus RC F 1:23.73 randy pobst

[Schnell_1]

Originally Posted by Vic55

This is interesting:


13. BMW M4 1:23.73 randy pobst

14. Lexus RC F 1:23.73 randy pobst

A testament to what can be accomplished with a phenomenal wheel man. That RC-F car is outclassed by virtually every car in the Top 25.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Schnell_1

A testament to what can be accomplished with a phenomenal wheel man. That RC-F car is outclassed by virtually every car in the Top 25.

Yeah I was more interested in the same time as the M4 with the same driver... The RC-F is a fat pig but- I saw one the other day on the 55 and it looked, dare I say, pretty good!!

[Schnell_1]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Yeah I was more interested in the same time as the M4 with the same driver... The RC-F is a fat pig but- I saw one the other day on the 55 and it looked, dare I say, pretty good!!

North Koreans hack your account, Vic? LOL

Inside and outside, I actually like the aesthetics too, especially the seats. Performance-wise, outside the hands of Randy Pobst, it underwhelms as per the usual Lexus F models. With all of the tech in which Toyota has access, why don't they throw a shot across-the-bow of the Germans...?

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Schnell_1

North Koreans hack your account, Vic? LOL

Inside and outside, I actually like the aesthetics too, especially the seats. Performance-wise, outside the hands of Randy Pobst, it underwhelms as per the usual Lexus F models. With all of the tech in which Toyota has access, why don't they throw a shot across-the-bow of the Germans...?

Its not in their DNA to take that shot ... have you driven one? Im going to humor myself and drive one today for the hell of it--- my friend owns a store

Dont worry- no chance I get one.

[Schnell_1]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Its not in their DNA to take that shot ... have you driven one? Im going to humor myself and drive one today for the hell of it--- my friend owns a store

Dont worry- no chance I get one.

Only the elderly IS-F, which was OK for its time. Haven't seen any new ones yet - being only 45 mins North it's amazing how much of an improved car culture/ecosystem you have over SD county.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Schnell_1

Only the elderly IS-F, which was OK for its time. Haven't seen any new ones yet - being only 45 mins North it's amazing how much of an improved car culture/ecosystem you have over SD county.

The ex wife had the first run IS-F--- I only liked the sound from 3k rpms on along with the BBS forged wheels. But the car was a kidney crusher on the freeway.

SD is on the rise though... Alex at Tag Motorsports really has a good following and HRE is right there in Vista as well.



Edit: Sorry Urban for taking this waaaaaaaaaaaay off topic