Wrinkes/Creases on Leather Dashboard

jayyp · 01-19-2015, 06:15 PM

Upon picking up my car at the BMW Welt back in November, I noticed that my leather dashboard has some uneven surfaces. It looks like they are wrinkles/creases? Is there anyway to fix this? I reported this to BMWNA to get it checked at the port, and as figured, they blamed it as the "natural structure of the leather".

I find this unacceptable given that I paid for this option only to receive this (Sorry, iPhone pic). Call me OCD but this bugs the s*** out of me:

MWcoupe · 01-19-2015, 07:55 PM

Yup, my full leather is creased really bad just right behind idrive in the left side. Also the Edge on my glove box is really bad.

kriegs · 01-19-2015, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jayyp

Upon picking up my car at the BMW Welt back in November, I noticed that my leather dashboard has some uneven surfaces. It looks like they are wrinkles/creases? Is there anyway to fix this? I reported this to BMWNA to get it checked at the port, and as figured, they blamed it as the "natural structure of the leather".

I find this unacceptable given that I paid for this option only to receive this (Sorry, iPhone pic). Call me OCD but this bugs the s*** out of me:

I really do not understand the choice of leather for this car but this confirms for me that I will just lease for 30 months. The leather on my dash in my Cayenne was flawless after 24 months of usage

X2Board · 01-19-2015, 08:12 PM

My leather dash in the X5 M looks better than that, and it's 4 years old.

F12M6MD · 01-19-2015, 08:25 PM

The full merino leather on the dash is very taut. There really is no cushion to it (as opposed to the M5/M6). I had some small defects on my M4 too.

MacOSR · 01-19-2015, 08:37 PM

Isn't that the beauty of leather? My E60 M5 with upgraded leather has this. 100% perfect = synthetic.

jayyp · 01-19-2015, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by F12M6MD

The full merino leather on the dash is very taut. There really is no cushion to it (as opposed to the M5/M6). I had some small defects on my M4 too.

Yeah, my friend with the 640i leather package has a lot more cushion than what we get in our F8x's.

Is your's just as bad as mine? Did you try to get it fixed or anything?

Vectors2final · 01-20-2015, 05:26 AM

I don't think I'll care about that... It's so minuscule, and it's a natural product. Natural products are bound to have some flaws and imperfections. Just like some of you complaining about the way the seats wrinkle, but in reality that's just what leather seats do.

I don't think I'll lose any sleep over it.

huatian · 01-20-2015, 06:44 AM

I don't see anything that would make me upset. I was expecting to see a big wrinkle or crease. I think your making yourself crazy.

Damasconian · 01-20-2015, 07:16 AM

I got in my car this morning and noted how after three months, 2000 miles and numerous friends test drives the interior looks flawless. I wouldn't worry about that slight wrinkle, I really had to strain my eyes to find it.

When you get a car like this, we call become OCD. I thought I had an issue with the clutch pedal until I sat in KennyPowers M3. We are hypersensitive....and that's ok.

dmk08 · 01-20-2015, 07:27 AM

I have no wrinkles or flaws in my car on the dash. I did have a weird issue on my back seat where it had a few big wrinkles and a rough patch. My dealer ordered me a new seat back for the rear.

jayyp · 01-20-2015, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Damasconian

I got in my car this morning and noted how after three months, 2000 miles and numerous friends test drives the interior looks flawless. I wouldn't worry about that slight wrinkle, I really had to strain my eyes to find it.

When you get a car like this, we call become OCD. I thought I had an issue with the clutch pedal until I sat in KennyPowers M3. We are hypersensitive....and that's ok.

Haha very true. Remember this is an iPhone pic so the quality isn't the best. It is definitely more noticeable in person.

harry$ · 01-20-2015, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dmk08

I have no wrinkles or flaws in my car on the dash. I did have a weird issue on my back seat where it had a few big wrinkles and a rough patch. My dealer ordered me a new seat back for the rear.

Did they order the leather only and will try to reupholster at the dealer?

Or did they actually order up the complete seat back for you?

dmk08 · 01-20-2015, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by harry$

Did they order the leather only and will try to reupholster at the dealer?

Or did they actually order up the complete seat back for you?

A complete seat back. Just bolt out bolt in. They said it would take a month or so.

Rupes · 01-20-2015, 09:17 AM

Sounds like you need to buy a Rolls-Royce. They only use leather from bulls because they don't have any stretch marks like cow hides. They are also raised in cold climates to avoid bug bites. It's an OCD persons sweetest dream!

JustChris · 01-20-2015, 09:42 AM

Is it the mark by the speaker?

dmk08 · 01-20-2015, 10:28 AM

This is why they are replacing my seat backing.

jayyp · 01-20-2015, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dmk08

This is why they are replacing my seat backing.

BMWNA agreed to do so? Looks like it'll come back though from the seatbelt pushing up against it. My CA said he's going to try to fight with BMWNA or something to repair/replace the leather on mine. Not sure how it's going to turn out though since the VPC said there's no reason for repair.

JoeFromPA · 01-20-2015, 12:46 PM

Brand new leather should not be creased or wrinkled. If it's stretched taut, it should be taut. However, in the Ops original picture, I'd say leather is a natural product and normal natural flaws can occur (though they can be sanded out during the treatment phase for the most part).

My bigger issue with BMW's full leather dash is that it shows puckering at tight stretches already in some cars I've seen. Leather should NOT be puckered around a tight bend when it's new, because it will be under a lot of strain as it goes through cold and hot spells and dries out some, and those puckers will develop into creases/cracks.

Damasconian · 01-20-2015, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupes

Sounds like you need to buy a Rolls-Royce. They only use leather from bulls because they don't have any stretch marks like cow hides. They are also raised in cold climates to avoid bug bites. It's an OCD persons sweetest dream!

This initially sounds like BS but I'd bet my house you are correct. This type of stuff matters to people that spend 300K+ on a car. Thanks for wasting my next 1/2 hour looking up RR leather requirements.

JoeFromPA · 01-20-2015, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Damasconian

This initially sounds like BS but I'd bet my house you are correct. This type of stuff matters to people that spend 300K+ on a car. Thanks for wasting my next 1/2 hour looking up RR leather requirements.

http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/0.../page/view-all

Hope that saves you some time. Read the interview. Good stuff.

Lups · 01-20-2015, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeFromPA

http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/0.../page/view-all

Hope that saves you some time. Read the interview. Good stuff.

Thanks. I'm supposed to work today and now I'm thinking about rr leathers and freezing bulls.

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F12M6MD Lieutenant 326 Rep 498 Posts Drives: Rivian R1T Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	The full merino leather on the dash is very taut. There really is no cushion to it (as opposed to the M5/M6). I had some small defects on my M4 too. __________________ Rivian R1T
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MacOSR Private First Class 203 Rep 185 Posts Drives: 16 X5M, 18 M550, 21 M5C, 23 M8 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Canton, Ohio iTrader: (0)	Isn't that the beauty of leather? My E60 M5 with upgraded leather has this. 100% perfect = synthetic.
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Vectors2final Brigadier General 1357 Rep 3,349 Posts Drives: 2018 F80 YMB/SS ZCP Join Date: May 2011 Location: Austin, Tx iTrader: (0)	I don't think I'll care about that... It's so minuscule, and it's a natural product. Natural products are bound to have some flaws and imperfections. Just like some of you complaining about the way the seats wrinkle, but in reality that's just what leather seats do. I don't think I'll lose any sleep over it. __________________ 2019 Ruby GT350 - Gen 5 Whipple on corn making 855RWHP. Sold: 2018 F80 Part Deux /DCT /YMB /Full SS /CF Trim /ZCP /ZEC w/Black 666M Sold: 2015 F80 /DCT /YMB /Full SS /CF Trim /ZEC /ZLP /HK /S&TVC- 18''///M
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huatian Second Lieutenant 73 Rep 240 Posts Drives: SS M4 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	I don't see anything that would make me upset. I was expecting to see a big wrinkle or crease. I think your making yourself crazy.
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Damasconian Lieutenant Colonel 742 Rep 1,555 Posts Drives: 2015 M4 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	I got in my car this morning and noted how after three months, 2000 miles and numerous friends test drives the interior looks flawless. I wouldn't worry about that slight wrinkle, I really had to strain my eyes to find it. When you get a car like this, we call become OCD. I thought I had an issue with the clutch pedal until I sat in KennyPowers M3. We are hypersensitive....and that's ok. __________________ 2015 M4 6-MT
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dmk08 Gone Fishin’ 7318 Rep 12,125 Posts Drives: Walks Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (19)	I have no wrinkles or flaws in my car on the dash. I did have a weird issue on my back seat where it had a few big wrinkles and a rough patch. My dealer ordered me a new seat back for the rear.
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Rupes Major 1056 Rep 1,459 Posts Drives: F87 M2 (current), E90 330xi (w Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	Sounds like you need to buy a Rolls-Royce. They only use leather from bulls because they don't have any stretch marks like cow hides. They are also raised in cold climates to avoid bug bites. It's an OCD persons sweetest dream!
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dmk08 Gone Fishin’ 7318 Rep 12,125 Posts Drives: Walks Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (19)	This is why they are replacing my seat backing.
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JoeFromPA Colonel 1796 Rep 2,997 Posts Drives: '15 AW M3 6MT Stripper Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: SE PA iTrader: (0)	Brand new leather should not be creased or wrinkled. If it's stretched taut, it should be taut. However, in the Ops original picture, I'd say leather is a natural product and normal natural flaws can occur (though they can be sanded out during the treatment phase for the most part). My bigger issue with BMW's full leather dash is that it shows puckering at tight stretches already in some cars I've seen. Leather should NOT be puckered around a tight bend when it's new, because it will be under a lot of strain as it goes through cold and hot spells and dries out some, and those puckers will develop into creases/cracks.
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