Black MPerf Side Gill Recall?

MKParris · 04-25-2015, 03:59 PM

In anticipation of getting my car, I ordered the black MPerformance side gills from Tischer and received this email:

"Part # 51712356980/1 (grill left and right) has been recalled by BMW due to a defect. We do not know when they will be available to order again."

Has anyone else heard of this? Part number is 51712356980 and 51712356981.

fjabad · 04-25-2015, 04:39 PM

Could be related to this thread. OP in that thread stated "the ones from BMW tend to peel off"

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1117504

MKParris · 04-25-2015, 04:59 PM

That could be it...why the heck are they using cheap stickers on a $70k car... is it that hard to make a plastic imprint and have it painted?

supremepower · 04-25-2015, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MKParris

In anticipation of getting my car, I ordered the black MPerformance side gills from Tischer and received this email:

"Part # 51712356980/1 (grill left and right) has been recalled by BMW due to a defect. We do not know when they will be available to order again."

Has anyone else heard of this? Part number is 51712356980 and 51712356981.

The product is currently on back order throughout the nation. We recommend just getting the IND ones for $10 more. The quality is fantastic.

MKParris · 04-25-2015, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by supremepower

The product is currently on back order throughout the nation. We recommend just getting the IND ones for $10 more. The quality is fantastic.

It would be nice if certain websites reflected that information and let the customer know prior to purchase as I dont want to pay $18 in shipping for just the black front grill which I could have combined with another order somewhere else.

Mario_Kart · 04-25-2015, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by supremepower

The product is currently on back order throughout the nation. We recommend just getting the IND ones for $10 more. The quality is fantastic.

From what I have been reading, the IND ones are exactly the same as the OEM ones and also have had the problem with the sticker peeling off.

Can you tell us what makes the IND ones better and if they make their own from raw material?

supremepower · 04-25-2015, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MKParris

It would be nice if certain websites reflected that information and let the customer know prior to purchase as I dont want to pay $18 in shipping for just the black front grill which I could have combined with another order somewhere else.

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Originally Posted by Mario_Kart

From what I have been reading, the IND ones are exactly the same as the OEM ones and also have had the problem with the sticker peeling off.

We have not experienced any complaints while selling IND's cosmetic products, nor have I heard of such issues about their products.

Can you tell us what makes the IND ones better and if they make their own from raw material?

IND uses the OEM cores, and paints them in a gloss black or optional special colors. There are no issues with flaking or peeling because they go through a extensive quality control process. Every side grill is examined with meticulous detail. Not many people know this, but any of the products with paint bleeding issues are immediately trashed. Only the "perfect" grills go out.

The stickers are a gel coating, so they are weather proof from peeling and fading.

Mario_Kart · 04-25-2015, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by supremepower

IND uses the OEM cores, and paints them in a gloss black or optional special colors. There are no issues with flaking or peeling because they go through a extensive quality control process. Every side grill is examined with meticulous detail. Not many people know this, but any of the products with paint bleeding issues are immediately trashed. Only the "perfect" grills go out.

The stickers are a gel coating, so they are weather proof from peeling and fading.

The question is not about the quality of the paint work by IND. I have owned painted oem parts from IND in the past and now. So I know their quality.

The question here what makes the IND grill different with not having the stickers peeling. If what you said about the stickers being gel coated and all, so why is it peeling?

jwilliams · 04-25-2015, 07:31 PM

Basically there is nothing different. IND ones have the same chance of the stickers peeling as they are the same part but sprayed black. Any stockist of IND parts will clearly talk them up however. Personally after seeing the price of some easily powder coated stock exhaust tips being sold for a small fortune i decided id rather not have the parts i want than pay over the odds from those guys.

supremepower · 04-25-2015, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mario_Kart

Quote:

Originally Posted by supremepower

IND uses the OEM cores, and paints them in a gloss black or optional special colors. There are no issues with flaking or peeling because they go through a extensive quality control process. Every side grill is examined with meticulous detail. Not many people know this, but any of the products with paint bleeding issues are immediately trashed. Only the "perfect" grills go out.

The stickers are a gel coating, so they are weather proof from peeling and fading.

The question is not about the quality of the paint work by IND. I have owned painted oem parts from IND in the past and now. So I know their quality.

The question here what makes the IND grill different with not having the stickers peeling. If what you said about the stickers being gel coated and all, so why is it peeling?

I have not heard of it peeling.

Nor have I seen anyone on the forums say anything about the IND stickers peeling off.

I have only seen these issues with the OEM

Stevens21234 · 04-25-2015, 07:53 PM

same..it has been peeling from the base. I wonder if recall means we can ship them to BMW for an exchange as I haven't heard anything from BMW.

8600RPM · 04-25-2015, 07:58 PM

Mine both peeled. Just used Krazy glue and no prob since. Yes lame but more hassle to send back

Mario_Kart · 04-25-2015, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by supremepower

I have not heard of it peeling.

Nor have I seen anyone on the forums say anything about the IND stickers peeling off.

I have only seen these issues with the OEM

You are funny. open your eyes to reply #4
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1117504

supremepower · 04-25-2015, 08:20 PM

Hmm interesting. I'll follow up with IND. We have never experienced any issues with their products.

Except for the mineral white reflectors, because it is a very hard paint to match

Mario_Kart · 04-25-2015, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by supremepower

Hmm interesting. I'll follow up with IND. We have never experienced any issues with their products.

Except for the mineral white reflectors, because it is a very hard paint to match

What's there to follow up with IND for? If anything, you should call BMW for an explanation. LOL.

jwilliams · 04-26-2015, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by supremepower

I have not heard of it peeling.

Nor have I seen anyone on the forums say anything about the IND stickers peeling off.

I have only seen these issues with the OEM

only issues with OEM...... then also IND will have issues seeing as they buy OEM ones then merely spray them.

dmk08 · 04-26-2015, 07:38 AM

Ive had the OEM ones since I got my car and they are fine.

Anthony4579 · 04-27-2015, 09:10 AM

I am on my second OEM set, dealer replaced first ones due to the M3 Logo peeling away from the Gill. Second set starting to show minor peeling. Frustrating!

MasterP · 04-27-2015, 01:52 PM

My IND ones arrived peeling - yes, not even exposed to the elements yet. The M3 Badge it's self is lifting away from the painted trim piece. I chuckled, because "OMG OMG IND Why are you complaining about IND" sipped a beer and couple dabs of clear gorilla glue later it's on there. It's fine.

Nate@IND · 04-27-2015, 02:11 PM

If any members have a peeling side grille that came from IND contact us for a replacement. Just like the painted reflectors we offer a warranty on all parts.

mshab356 · 04-27-2015, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate@IND

If any members have a peeling side grille that came from IND contact us for a replacement. Just like the painted reflectors we offer a warranty on all parts.

Gotta love this kind of service

Lojs · 04-27-2015, 04:08 PM

Update from Germany: today bought my OEMs from dealer. Unpacked right away to check ... and yes they showed very minor peeling at the narrow side. I explicitly asked about any recall, they checked the system and said negative. I took those anyway, since I am now blacked out with black/carbon M Performance bits, so can't stand the chrome side gills. They told me they will replace them anytime within next two years if it gets worse or there is actually a recall.

04-25-2015, 03:59 PM	#1
MKParris Major 908 Rep 1,110 Posts Drives: M3CX Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 M3 Comp Xdrive [0.00]	Black MPerf Side Gill Recall? In anticipation of getting my car, I ordered the black MPerformance side gills from Tischer and received this email: "Part # 51712356980/1 (grill left and right) has been recalled by BMW due to a defect. We do not know when they will be available to order again." Has anyone else heard of this? Part number is 51712356980 and 51712356981. __________________ Sold: 2008 335i, 2015 M3, 2018 M3, 2020 M2 Comp Current: 2022 M3 CompX, 2024 M2 6-Spd
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fjabad Private 48 Rep 85 Posts Drives: F80 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (0)	Could be related to this thread. OP in that thread stated "the ones from BMW tend to peel off" http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1117504
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MKParris Major 908 Rep 1,110 Posts Drives: M3CX Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 M3 Comp Xdrive [0.00]	That could be it...why the heck are they using cheap stickers on a $70k car... is it that hard to make a plastic imprint and have it painted?
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jwilliams Lieutenant 146 Rep 563 Posts Drives: 3 series Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: harlow iTrader: (1)	Basically there is nothing different. IND ones have the same chance of the stickers peeling as they are the same part but sprayed black. Any stockist of IND parts will clearly talk them up however. Personally after seeing the price of some easily powder coated stock exhaust tips being sold for a small fortune i decided id rather not have the parts i want than pay over the odds from those guys.
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Stevens21234 Lieutenant 114 Rep 524 Posts Drives: F80 + 991.1 GT3 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	same..it has been peeling from the base. I wonder if recall means we can ship them to BMW for an exchange as I haven't heard anything from BMW.
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8600RPM Lieutenant Colonel 657 Rep 1,749 Posts Drives: e92 m3 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: AZ iTrader: (0)	Mine both peeled. Just used Krazy glue and no prob since. Yes lame but more hassle to send back
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supremepower Supreme Leader 2284 Rep 6,548 Posts Drives: G80, 996GT2, 996TT, 991RS 356b Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fullerton, CA So.Cal. iTrader: (15)	Hmm interesting. I'll follow up with IND. We have never experienced any issues with their products. Except for the mineral white reflectors, because it is a very hard paint to match __________________ **SupremePOWER** 1562 Kimberly Ave Fullerton CA 92831 Contact: sales@supremepower.com :: Shop# (714)632-1951 Sales & service of BBS Street & Motorsport products. BBS Highest Volume Dealer 2015 thru 2022 All the top brands at the prices and service you can count on. Professional installation.
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dmk08 Gone Fishin’ 7318 Rep 12,125 Posts Drives: Walks Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (19)	Ive had the OEM ones since I got my car and they are fine.
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Anthony4579 New Member 13 Rep 25 Posts Drives: Audi S5 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	I am on my second OEM set, dealer replaced first ones due to the M3 Logo peeling away from the Gill. Second set starting to show minor peeling. Frustrating!
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MasterP Colonel 721 Rep 2,342 Posts Drives: All the M's Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Where do you want me? iTrader: (8)	My IND ones arrived peeling - yes, not even exposed to the elements yet. The M3 Badge it's self is lifting away from the painted trim piece. I chuckled, because "OMG OMG IND Why are you complaining about IND" sipped a beer and couple dabs of clear gorilla glue later it's on there. It's fine.
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Nate@IND BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 2868 Rep 11,374 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago iTrader: (19)	If any members have a peeling side grille that came from IND contact us for a replacement. Just like the painted reflectors we offer a warranty on all parts. __________________ IND DISTRIBUTION \| 866-963-4520 • FACEBOOK • INSTAGRAM • FLICKR
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Lojs Lieutenant 240 Rep 481 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M4 f82 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Berlin iTrader: (0)	Update from Germany: today bought my OEMs from dealer. Unpacked right away to check ... and yes they showed very minor peeling at the narrow side. I explicitly asked about any recall, they checked the system and said negative. I took those anyway, since I am now blacked out with black/carbon M Performance bits, so can't stand the chrome side gills. They told me they will replace them anytime within next two years if it gets worse or there is actually a recall.
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