Dinan P1 Power Package

135ifanatik · 06-29-2016, 08:59 PM

Hey all,

I am considering purchasing the Dinan P1 Power Package from my local BMW dealer. This package includes 55 HP & 74 lb-ft of torque gain.

My car is a 2012 BMW 135i. I have recently purchased the M Performance Exhaust (i love it).

Anyways, here are a few questions for you BMW 1Addicts!

1) Is the increase in power and torque significant? Can you really notice it? Mind you this is $1800 + install.

2) Does it change the sound dynamic of the car? Any new lovely noises that I can hear? Or will it sounds the same?

3) Is it worth it?

Thanks,
135ifanatik

vivanapoli806 · 06-29-2016, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 135ifanatik

Hey all,

I am considering purchasing the Dinan P1 Power Package from my local BMW dealer. This package includes 55 HP & 74 lb-ft of torque gain.

My car is a 2012 BMW 135i. I have recently purchased the M Performance Exhaust (i love it).

Anyways, here are a few questions for you BMW 1Addicts!

1) Is the increase in power and torque significant? Can you really notice it? Mind you this is $1800 + install.

2) Does it change the sound dynamic of the car? Any new lovely noises that I can hear? Or will it sounds the same?

3) Is it worth it?

Thanks,
135ifanatik

Is it worth it for $1800? No it's not. For that price you can go jb4 and get dps and fmic if you choose to. Dinan is overpriced and under performing.

No Style 135is · 06-29-2016, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 135ifanatik

Hey all,

I am considering purchasing the Dinan P1 Power Package from my local BMW dealer. This package includes 55 HP & 74 lb-ft of torque gain.

My car is a 2012 BMW 135i. I have recently purchased the M Performance Exhaust (i love it).

Anyways, here are a few questions for you BMW 1Addicts!

1) Is the increase in power and torque significant? Can you really notice it? Mind you this is $1800 + install.

2) Does it change the sound dynamic of the car? Any new lovely noises that I can hear? Or will it sounds the same?

3) Is it worth it?

Thanks,
135ifanatik

I have 135is with Dinan Stage 3.
IMO, once again IMO, it is not worth it.

Esteban · 06-30-2016, 01:06 AM

I have the Dinan S2 tune and I'm happy with it. Yes, a Dinan tune is expensive but the reason I went with them is because they make a safe and well balanced tune for our cars. This is important to me because I plan on keeping my car for as long as possible and want it in good running condition for the duration. 355hp and 401lb-ft on an otherwise stock engine may be conservative to some, but it's plenty fast for me. Besides, I'll never take my car to the track and what I have is more than enough for the street in my book.

litebulb · 06-30-2016, 01:53 AM

I regret that I kind of babied my 135i during the warranty with Dinan. I am totally now paying for it, as no matter what, your water pump, gaskets, etc will need to be replaced. I kind of wish I really drove it hard during the warranty.

@135ifanatik, what is your mileage, is your car in good condition and in warranty? Dinan is not necessary safer as any tune will increase the stress on your parts. If you took the money for the dinan and went jb4 and used the rest of your money to upgrade your stock parts (CP, FMIC, DP, Inlets) to be more efficient, that would go better in the long run. However if you are still in warranty then your shop might not service your car if you use aftermarket parts.

When I went MHD (70,000KM), I also upgraded my FMIC, DP and CP only to find out a couple of months later that it further stressed my gaskets on my OFH, OC and valve cover, which all need to be replaced. I noticed the small oil leaks during the time I had Dinan so I'm sure eventually I would have needed to replace them.

Good Luck

Esteban · 06-30-2016, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by litebulb

Dinan is not nessesary safer as any tune will increase the stress on your parts.

It would seem to me that a more conservative tune would always be safer.

Gangplank · 06-30-2016, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Esteban

Quote:

Originally Posted by litebulb

Dinan is not nessesary safer as any tune will increase the stress on your parts.

It would seem to me that a more conservative tune would always be safer.

I would agree with Steve. The more power one asks of a motor the more maintenance it will require, and the shorter the maint. Interval should be if one plans on it performing and keep running. There is a reason race motors are rebuilt more often...

PhillyfaanM3 · 06-30-2016, 04:39 AM

I agree w Esteban. But I'll first start by saying this isn't a bashing of other tunes...at the end of the day you have to go with what makes sense for you.

I'm running Dinan Stage 3 now and was previously running stage 2. I had stage 2 for a year and loved it (power/torque). In that year I never had one issue w the car from a tune perspective including SEL's. Everytime I got in it, it would start no problem, no issue.

It really depends on what you're looking for. Dinan isn't going to give you the most power. It's conservative and yes it's expensive, but there's the peace of mind.

135ifanatik · 06-30-2016, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by litebulb

I regret that I kind of babied my 135i during the warranty with Dinan. I am totally now paying for it, as no matter what, your water pump, gaskets, etc will need to be replaced. I kind of wish I really drove it hard during the warranty.

@135ifanatik, what is your mileage, is your car in good condition and in warranty? Dinan is not necessary safer as any tune will increase the stress on your parts. If you took the money for the dinan and went jb4 and used the rest of your money to upgrade your stock parts (CP, FMIC, DP, Inlets) to be more efficient, that would go better in the long run. However if you are still in warranty then your shop might not service your car if you use aftermarket parts.

When I went MHD (70,000KM), I also upgraded my FMIC, DP and CP only to find out a couple of months later that it further stressed my gaskets on my OFH, OC and valve cover, which all need to be replaced. I noticed the small oil leaks during the time I had Dinan so I'm sure eventually I would have needed to replace them.

Good Luck

Hey!

My mileage is at 60,000 km. I have 6 years of warranty left (2 bmw cert and 4 warranty BMW sold me)

Dinan_Engineering · 06-30-2016, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 135ifanatik

Mind you this is $1800 + install.

Curious... what else is included in that $1800? The tune in question is $1338 so I'm trying to figure out where the $500 delta is...

Oops nevermind just saw you were in Canada... exchange rate. Got it.

ShocknAwe · 06-30-2016, 05:59 PM

Dinan has a great tune for it's purpose. Hope you enjoy it!

That said:
Be wary of folks saying that "aggressive" tunes lead to WP and gasket replacements and other maintenance like vac lines and bad plugs. I've heard so many claims over the years.

Your WP will go out stock or tuned, and it will be unpredictable. Gaskets go bad every 50-100k miles. OFHG, OCHG, VCG, etc etc will all go bad on schedule and need to be replaced as typical, unless you or someone working on your car overtorques something. Vacuum lines will need to be replaced around 50-100k. Only depends on their exposure. Oil changes should already be done every 6-7k depending on the oil, never let your car run for 15k on a single change. People also claim that running high boost will blow your turbos. This is only true if you lack supporting mods, or try to push the turbo outside of its efficiency range. It's actually pretty hard to do that.

Spark plugs are probably the only caveat. Running a colder plug when in higher boost applications is a good idea. That and changing them more frequently. When tuned 25k is ideal for OEM/Bosch, and 15-20k for NGK.

Basically, don't be dumb. Do your routine maintenance as you should. Run the right plug, the right octane at the right flow rate, and give the turbo(s) the right airflow. After that, it's all about the power goals.

Gangplank · 06-30-2016, 06:13 PM

More power + use of it = more wear. If you track a not tuned car the maint. goes up. If you tune a car and run it hard maint. also goes up.

Just sayn.

ShocknAwe · 06-30-2016, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gangplank

More power + use of it = more wear. If you track a not tuned car the maint. goes up. If you tune a car and run it hard maint. also goes up.

Just sayn.

Realistically it's negligible. Follow proper maintenance schedules. BMW recommended schedules are absurd and a good way to break your car tuned or not.

What is it that you think is wearing out?

Gangplank · 06-30-2016, 10:44 PM

agree on the BMW schedules. I change my oil every 5-6k for daily driver use. If I tracked it I'd change it every 4th trackday at the most. If I was on/off boost in a tuned car I took to the drag strip I'd probably 1/2 my regular maint. sched.

Oil is cheap, motors are expensive. Fluid break down quicker the harder you run it + plugs, seals, rings, tranny, diff, water pump runs more often, and do on. Pretty much everything works harder.

litebulb · 06-30-2016, 11:10 PM

Are you in Vancouver, if so come to the meet in July and we can discuss in person.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 135ifanatik

Hey!

My mileage is at 60,000 km. I have 6 years of warranty left (2 bmw cert and 4 warranty BMW sold me)

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135ifanatik New Member 20 Rep 26 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: British Columbia iTrader: (0)	Dinan P1 Power Package Hey all, I am considering purchasing the Dinan P1 Power Package from my local BMW dealer. This package includes 55 HP & 74 lb-ft of torque gain. My car is a 2012 BMW 135i. I have recently purchased the M Performance Exhaust (i love it). Anyways, here are a few questions for you BMW 1Addicts! 1) Is the increase in power and torque significant? Can you really notice it? Mind you this is $1800 + install. 2) Does it change the sound dynamic of the car? Any new lovely noises that I can hear? Or will it sounds the same? 3) Is it worth it? Thanks, 135ifanatik
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Esteban Major General 43787 Rep 7,224 Posts Drives: a slow car fast Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	I have the Dinan S2 tune and I'm happy with it. Yes, a Dinan tune is expensive but the reason I went with them is because they make a safe and well balanced tune for our cars. This is important to me because I plan on keeping my car for as long as possible and want it in good running condition for the duration. 355hp and 401lb-ft on an otherwise stock engine may be conservative to some, but it's plenty fast for me. Besides, I'll never take my car to the track and what I have is more than enough for the street in my book. __________________ Last edited by Esteban; 06-30-2016 at 01:31 AM..
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litebulb Captain 68 Rep 627 Posts Drives: '09 E88 135i M-Sport/6MT/SGM Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (3) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i Cabri ... [10.00]	I regret that I kind of babied my 135i during the warranty with Dinan. I am totally now paying for it, as no matter what, your water pump, gaskets, etc will need to be replaced. I kind of wish I really drove it hard during the warranty. @135ifanatik, what is your mileage, is your car in good condition and in warranty? Dinan is not necessary safer as any tune will increase the stress on your parts. If you took the money for the dinan and went jb4 and used the rest of your money to upgrade your stock parts (CP, FMIC, DP, Inlets) to be more efficient, that would go better in the long run. However if you are still in warranty then your shop might not service your car if you use aftermarket parts. When I went MHD (70,000KM), I also upgraded my FMIC, DP and CP only to find out a couple of months later that it further stressed my gaskets on my OFH, OC and valve cover, which all need to be replaced. I noticed the small oil leaks during the time I had Dinan so I'm sure eventually I would have needed to replace them. Good Luck __________________ \| Dinan S2=>MHD \| e46 M3 trans mounts \| Dinan CF CAI \| ER CP \| HKS SSQV4 BOV \| RB PCV Valve \| VRSF DP \| N55 MP \| BMW PE \| OC \| VRSF 7" FMIC \| UUC Evo3 SSK \| EBC GD Sport Rotors \| EBC Redstuff \| TRW F+R \| \| Whiteline KDT918 \| H&R Front Sway \| BMWP 313 \| MPSS 225/255 \| Scopione CF Rear Diffuser \| iCarbon CF Rear Spoiler \| P3 v2.1 Gauge \| Interior LED Retrofit \| Last edited by litebulb; 06-30-2016 at 04:28 AM..
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PhillyfaanM3 Lieutenant 458 Rep 590 Posts Drives: 2018 Mineral Gray Metallic M3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bucks County PA iTrader: (1)	I agree w Esteban. But I'll first start by saying this isn't a bashing of other tunes...at the end of the day you have to go with what makes sense for you. I'm running Dinan Stage 3 now and was previously running stage 2. I had stage 2 for a year and loved it (power/torque). In that year I never had one issue w the car from a tune perspective including SEL's. Everytime I got in it, it would start no problem, no issue. It really depends on what you're looking for. Dinan isn't going to give you the most power. It's conservative and yes it's expensive, but there's the peace of mind. __________________ 2018 MG F80 M3 ZCP \| BBS LM?s \| Michelin Pilot 4s \| BMW HAS Coil Overs \| Stek PPF \| DINAN CF Intakes \| IND Engine cover \| Akrapovic Evolution Exhaust \| 2018 Champaign Quartz F31 Sports Wagon \| BMW 624 wheels \| KW Street Coil Overs \| DINAN Stage 1 v2.0 \| Soul Performance Muffler delete
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ShocknAwe 1Addict 3234 Rep 7,894 Posts Drives: E82 Mutt, M57 Truck Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Charleston iTrader: (22)	Dinan has a great tune for it's purpose. Hope you enjoy it! That said: Be wary of folks saying that "aggressive" tunes lead to WP and gasket replacements and other maintenance like vac lines and bad plugs. I've heard so many claims over the years. Your WP will go out stock or tuned, and it will be unpredictable. Gaskets go bad every 50-100k miles. OFHG, OCHG, VCG, etc etc will all go bad on schedule and need to be replaced as typical, unless you or someone working on your car overtorques something. Vacuum lines will need to be replaced around 50-100k. Only depends on their exposure. Oil changes should already be done every 6-7k depending on the oil, never let your car run for 15k on a single change. People also claim that running high boost will blow your turbos. This is only true if you lack supporting mods, or try to push the turbo outside of its efficiency range. It's actually pretty hard to do that. Spark plugs are probably the only caveat. Running a colder plug when in higher boost applications is a good idea. That and changing them more frequently. When tuned 25k is ideal for OEM/Bosch, and 15-20k for NGK. Basically, don't be dumb. Do your routine maintenance as you should. Run the right plug, the right octane at the right flow rate, and give the turbo(s) the right airflow. After that, it's all about the power goals. __________________ 2010 135i 6MT Jet Black N54/3 FE82 Mutt \| BUILD THREAD \| GARAGE SALE
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Gangplank Brigadier General 1542 Rep 3,071 Posts Drives: 2011 e82 135i n55 Sport w/ DCT Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Vero Beach, FL iTrader: (2) Garage List 2011 135i [0.00]	More power + use of it = more wear. If you track a not tuned car the maint. goes up. If you tune a car and run it hard maint. also goes up. Just sayn.
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Gangplank Brigadier General 1542 Rep 3,071 Posts Drives: 2011 e82 135i n55 Sport w/ DCT Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Vero Beach, FL iTrader: (2) Garage List 2011 135i [0.00]	agree on the BMW schedules. I change my oil every 5-6k for daily driver use. If I tracked it I'd change it every 4th trackday at the most. If I was on/off boost in a tuned car I took to the drag strip I'd probably 1/2 my regular maint. sched. Oil is cheap, motors are expensive. Fluid break down quicker the harder you run it + plugs, seals, rings, tranny, diff, water pump runs more often, and do on. Pretty much everything works harder.
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