Akrapovic Exhaust Question

[StealthFish]

I was wondering is the Akrapovic slip on exhaust before the downpipe or does include the downpipe section? I would like to get that exhaust but only if it doesn't go against the powertrain warranty. I am coming from the world of Subaru and they have a full TBE (turbo back exhaust) that includes the downpipe or a CBE (catback exhaust). I was wondering what the Akrapovic is similar too. Thanks!

[hkmikel]

slipon is installed after the Cat. so just the end part.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by StealthFish

I was wondering is the Akrapovic slip on exhaust before the downpipe or does include the downpipe section? I would like to get that exhaust but only if it doesn't go against the powertrain warranty. I am coming from the world of Subaru and they have a full TBE (turbo back exhaust) that includes the downpipe or a CBE (catback exhaust). I was wondering what the Akrapovic is similar too. Thanks!

Akra's Slip-On is axle back only, so it stops before secondary cats and resonators. At the moment, you are no longer able to "officially" buy the Akra Evolution Midpipes for the M3/M4 due to emissions. VW emission scandal scared a lot of the aftermarket exhaust companies. Apparently, REMUS and Eisenmann will/probably follow Akrapovic's path soon.

For whatever reason you can still buy the M2's Akrapovic Evo, go figure. I'm also unsure if you can still get the Akra's Downpipes officially either for the M3/M4.

[Daxos]

Depending on how badly you want the Akra down and mid pipes you could just order and ship from Europe directly. It will be even more expensive, but it's not like the Akra system is cheap to begin with.

[StealthFish]

Thanks guys, I think I will get the slip on exhaust. I am not sure if other companies sell the mid and downpipe section but I want to keep my car stock for now anyway, let's see how long that last. I heard the stock sound needs a bump in umph, so this axleback should work.

[NYf82]

I would suggest you to get a tune first. Cheaper and it'll definitely increase ur stock exhausts cracks and burbles.

[AhsanU]

Originally Posted by StealthFish

Thanks guys, I think I will get the slip on exhaust. I am not sure if other companies sell the mid and downpipe section but I want to keep my car stock for now anyway, let's see how long that last. I heard the stock sound needs a bump in umph, so this catback should work.

I think you meant axle back at the end?

Either way, I advise against this. If you're going for a better sound, axle back (or slip on, in this case) is not the way to go. I recommend looking at Active Autowerke's midpipe, as they are very popular these days due to rasp reduction, and sound in general. DINAN has recently released one too. Midpipes will make the car louder and change the characteristics of the exhaust note, an axle back will not change it by much. If you're looking for umph, midpipes are definitely the way to go.

I think you'll be fine as long as you leave the downpipe stock in terms of powertrain warranty, this of course - can vary based on your dealership.

[mike@x-ph.com]

If you like the Akra sound go with the slip on version .. Akra stopped offering the full system in the US because of the strict emission laws

Another option would be Akra rear section + active autowerke midpipe

[StealthFish]

Originally Posted by AhsanU

I think you meant axle back at the end?

Either way, I advise against this. If you're going for a better sound, axle back (or slip on, in this case) is not the way to go. I recommend looking at Active Autowerke's midpipe, as they are very popular these days due to rasp reduction, and sound in general. DINAN has recently released one too. Midpipes will make the car louder and change the characteristics of the exhaust note, an axle back will not change it by much. If you're looking for umph, midpipes are definitely the way to go.

I think you'll be fine as long as you leave the downpipe stock in terms of powertrain warranty, this of course - can vary based on your dealership.

Yes, you are correct. I meant axleback and not catback. I am trying to keep the warranty. If I ever did a power mod, the first thing is a tune for sure. Added next would be downpipes and later on even twin turbos upgrade, but for now I just want to keep the vehicle's warranty and make it sound better. I believe the mid pipe would definitely have powertrain warranty be denied if anything were to happen.

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

If you like the Akra sound go with the slip on version .. Akra stopped offering the full system in the US because of the strict emission laws

Another option would be Akra rear section + active autowerke midpipe

PMed!

[Justin.AutoTalent]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

If you like the Akra sound go with the slip on version .. Akra stopped offering the full system in the US because of the strict emission laws

Another option would be Akra rear section + active autowerke midpipe

Note... AA mid pipe to Akra rear requires A LOT of fabrication work and cutting.

The only axle backs that fit with NO issues/cutting are Dinan and Remus....

I have a couple clips of both that I'll upload later tonight.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Justin | AutoTalent

Note... AA mid pipe to Akra rear requires A LOT of fabrication work and cutting.

The only axle backs that fit with NO issues/cutting are Dinan and Remus....

I have a couple clips of both that I'll upload later tonight.

Yes it's not a direct fit

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by StealthFish

PMed!

Did not receive it

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Did not receive it

Well there are ways around the Evolution thing.

I found mine after all so... lol it isn't impossible just officially you can't get it in the US anymore for the M3/M4.

[M3xican]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

If you like the Akra sound go with the slip on version .. Akra stopped offering the full system in the US because of the strict emission laws

Another option would be Akra rear section + active autowerke midpipe

Isn't that gonna cause you to run rich and burn through fuel without the tune to help that out? Thinking of doing the rear with a midpipe as well but don't know
If it's worth it without a tune?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by M3xican

Isn't that gonna cause you to run rich and burn through fuel without the tune to help that out? Thinking of doing the rear with a midpipe as well but don't know
If it's worth it without a tune?

No need for a tune for midpipe or axle back section

[unevrkno]

So many different opinions makes the decisions tough. Appreciate them all but I'm in search of the most cost effective way to improve the sound (lower tone without interior drone) without affecting the warranty at this time. Axle back swap out or mid pipes with stock axle back? Mid pipes with resonator drop only (leaving the rear cats in place? Which brand?

Thoughts appreciated.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by unevrkno

So many different opinions makes the decisions tough. Appreciate them all but I'm in search of the most cost effective way to improve the sound (lower tone without interior drone) without affecting the warranty at this time. Axle back swap out or mid pipes with stock axle back? Mid pipes with resonator drop only (leaving the rear cats in place? Which brand?

Thoughts appreciated.

If you want cost effective, the only thing is AA Midpipes w/ Stock Axle Back and Stock Downpipes.

[mcvaughan]

Since you can't get the full Evo system anymore I would go with MPE.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by mcvaughan

Since you can't get the full Evo system anymore I would go with MPE.

You technically can but you have to go through backdoor channels to do so which you cannot admit you do so.

[shoei]

Why are we making it sound like we're smuggling child labor slaves ? It's 2017 - if you want it, you can get it...

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by shoei

Why are we making it sound like we're smuggling child labor slaves ? It's 2017 - if you want it, you can get it...

cuz it's like smuggling fruits into the US :P

I'm pretty sure most vendors here know you can get Evo if you ask for it, they just don't want to admit to it openly. I personally don't know why they don't want to admit to it but I know for sure you can.

[m4282]

Originally Posted by StealthFish

Yes, you are correct. I meant axleback and not catback. I am trying to keep the warranty. If I ever did a power mod, the first thing is a tune for sure. Added next would be downpipes and later on even twin turbos upgrade, but for now I just want to keep the vehicle's warranty and make it sound better. I believe the mid pipe would definitely have powertrain warranty be denied if anything were to happen.

PMed!

Any mod will deny warrantied repair if it can show that the problem was a result of it, be it DP, MP or just AB.

Having said that - if you stick with Midpipe or AB or both chances of anything going wrong are slim to none.

It's only when the tunes kick in that it will increase chances

Again this is my 2 cents