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Hell No! $5k for 19HP, ugly wheels, and cosmetics? Pffft. | 28 | 21.54% | |
Hell Yeah! Why would I want a Civic M4? | 92 | 70.77% | |
Why get three letters when two will do: CS bitches. | 10 | 7.69% | |
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05-25-2017, 12:00 AM | #1 |
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You're Planning (or have) Your 2nd+ F8x: Did you get the Comp Pack?
That is the question.
We're getting to the point where a lot original F8x buyers are re-upping and/or switching it up, so I'm curious, if you're getting or have your 2nd (or greater) M4, did you get ZCP (Int'l: Competition Package) or pass on it? Why or why not? Rules: * Let's keep the poll to people who've already had a non-ZCP M4 * Even if you don't yet have the car, but have solid plans to get one * Could be concurrent or sequential F8xs
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onto my 3rd. The first two didn't have the ZCP option available, this go around it was, and opted for it. Def will pay a huge factor in resale value..we see it already, and even in the e9x days it was a HUGE factor. Def recommend it be considered
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I had a 2017 M4 Convertible non ZCP which only had 3000 miles on it. The moment that I heard that we are gonna get the competition package AND the LCI models, I sold it (it sold very quickly as it was one of the very few if not the only YMB color on the market, rest are all white or grey) and ordered an F83 Competition pack. Couldn't resist and I knew if I kept my non ZCP M4 longer, it would only lose so much value the moment the LCI/Competition pack models hit the market and that's exactly what happened! Thank God I sold it!
Can't wait to get my new M4 now with the competition pack! It's a totally different animal with upgraded damper settings, more power, and better exhaust note! It's a non brainer for only 5K over the base M4
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My BimmerPost member behavior meter is jumping out of my shirt pocket on this one.
I would bet that shirt that the venn diagram showing the intersection of those people who switch cars often enough to buy/lease two of the same generation with the those people who will pony up for the latest and greatest on the options sheet looks basically like a picture of a lunar eclipse. |
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I made the switch from 15 m4 to a 17 m3 zcp. Whoever drove both and thinks the zcp isn't worth it is either 1. Hating 2. Cant afford the extra package 3. Hasn't drove both.
The seats and wheels alone are worth the extra money. On top of it you get a updated new suspension that feels MUCH better compared to my M4 non zcp, the car actually feels more solid. On top of all little bits it come with too (that most people change out too anyway) I can't see how this isn't worth it. |
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I'm genuinely curious. I don't recall anyone have done so around here. I want to hear how much different the 2016 models are than the zcp models. We all know about how much better the zcp is than the 2015 models. |
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Also interested in this topic (although not sure how much 2015 vs. 2016 matters). I'd be most interested in suspension and exhaust note. Minor bump in HP by itself not a selling point and I'd probably skip the 20" wheels. I'd need to sit in the seat and drive for a while to decide on seats - not crazy about idea of losing lumbar but not crazy about non-ZCP seats otherwise so open-minded on the seats.
On value front, does ZCP vs. non-ZCP impact residual value % when leasing? I'm guessing it doesn't but would be interesting to know if it does.
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I will keep the M4 one more year, If I get another M4 I will probably get ZCP although I definitely don't want 20" rims.
I am also considering Porsche and Jaguar.
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I wouldn't sell a base M3/4 for a ZCP version. Maybe if it was a lease to a new lease but selling and buying for such minor differences wouldn't make sense TO ME. I would only sell an M3/4 to buy another M3/4 if it was a newer generation (like I have been). I'll probably keep my F80 until the next generation competition version comes along (unless I move onto another platform/manufacturer altogether).
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I've never understood the desire to buy multiple cars of the same generation. It's not like it was a surprise BMW was going to release an LCI and ZCP at some point.
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Many are leasing and if you leased early in the model cycle when you return the car at the end of the lease you either lease the same generation (since the mew generation isn't out yet) or you lease a different model or a different make,
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GrussGott, have you decided what you are going to do for the opal white-seated next F83? ZCP or no ZCP?
(No difference in seats for F83 ZCP vs. non-ZCP, right?)
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I'm not in love with Opal or Tanzanite, but I wasn't sure about moonstone either and turned out great so I'm hoping to be surprised! I'm iffy on the Satan triple-6 wheels, but the blacks look better to me, so what the heck, I've already had the 437s. Overall, if I do it (and about 95% right now), it should be a great ED. Hopefully I don't end up hating the color choices. |
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Still extremely happy with my '15 M3, but if (when?) I get another one (this car is a lease), i'll almost definitely check the exec pack and ZCP boxes!
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An extra $5k wrapped up in a finance plan is barely noticeable. I would think it really came down to timing or awareness. If a person doesn't plan to make many changes and has the opportunity to get a ZCP, they should definitely do so. If they plan on switching to a bunch of aftermarket stuff like all the stuff mentioned, it probably doesn't make a lot of sense.
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'16 non zcp f80 leasee here....17 months left on my lease. While my e9x m3 was a no brainer for zcp in my book..this one isn't a clear case IMO...the powerbump to me isn't a factor..wheels I am not a fan of and the seats are a concern for me, all the other cosmetics as well still makes it hard to justify the extra cost. Not to mention I'd be leasing again so resale value isn't a huge factor (as ZCP tends to hold a better value, that for sure the case with my e90 M3).......
most of the ZCP upgrades can be done aftermarket......hmmmm
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